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Post subject: pedal power question
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:33 pm
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so i have been powering my pedal board(7pedals) by simply using a couple danelecrodes and a daisy chain plugged into a cheap powerstrip with an extension cable. I have never understood why someone would drop a couple hundred bucks on a powered pedal board or just on a power supply for that matter, plus i like that diy grungy look;) I have been running it this way for around a year and i have yet to have a problem. So tell me am missing something? is it worth it to buy a lagitimate power supply? is there any potential issues powering in this way?

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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:57 pm
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I think it's a matter of neatness and quality. I would not spend hundreds on a power supply, it's just a matter of having something dependable with enough amps and the desired voltage. Some people like to tweak the voltage with some of their pedals. They will starve them a little or push them up a little for the sound. I'm not an expert on that, but if it allowed custom voltage to each pedal that would be cool. I would more than likely build my own with adjustable voltage. There are also pedals that power 3 or 4 other pedals, and not so expensive power supplies that look good. I guess if someone is willing to pay then someone is willing to make it. Don't you know the more you spend the better you sound? :lol:

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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:32 pm
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Do some gigs in places with dirty power, and then you'll realise why a quality PSU is important to some. :lol:

Most of my old cheap power supplies made my board utterly unusable in some venues. No point having a board full of nice pedals which you have hand picked to shape your tone into your perfect ideal and then have it overlaid with a loud BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. :shock:

Isolated outputs are wonderful too if you have a particular pedal (usually delay) which sounds awesome, but spits clock noise back up the power cable.

For home use? If your power is clean, then a £1.99 Ebay PSU and a daisy chain work perfectly, no reason at all to get anything fancy. :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:58 pm
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I use a Dunlop DC brick and I feel it was a sound investment. My board is tidy and dependable.

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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:03 am
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I got this Johnson FX-BRD Powered Pedalboard w/ a nice padded, cordura Gig Bag w/ pocket and shoulder strap for under $50. I see it's gone up a few bucks, but still under $60.

It even came with the velcro tape to attach the pedals and an assortment of cords for the stompboxes. Room enough for 5 boxes, placing the Cry Baby and my Fulltone Deja Vibe pedals to the side (though they do fit in the gig bag).

Adequate power supply, especially since I use a separate 18 VDC supply for my Fulltone OCD.

I had thought to make my own, and may someday, but I couldn't make a board and get a gig bag and power supply for this money.

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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:40 am
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i guess i havn't played anywhere with bad power yet. so i will likely make the change due to that, but i actually can and do starve the voltage on my fuzz and delay with the danelectrodes because they have a 3-9 volt knob and another one runs a daisy chain to the rest of the pedals.

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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:28 am
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stratgeek888 wrote:
So tell me am missing something? is it worth it to buy a lagitimate power supply? is there any potential issues powering in this way?


Yes:

- separate power for each pedal! If your multi-adapter cable fails, ALL(!) pedals are dead!
- different power consumption. Some pedals need 9V, some run better with 12V
- everything is in order
- only one(!!) power cable leading away from the pedal board! As soon as you use one or two 12V pedals, there would be more because the pedals need their own power supply if not stored on a powered pedal board.
- fail safe
- overload warning LEDs
- more professional look
- usually case or bag included

Dispite the advantages, I don't use one.

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:07 am
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I use a T-REX Fuel Tank classic. It will power nine 9v pedals and two 12v pedals at the same time.

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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:41 am
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I'm actually using a Harley Benton Jnr PSU at the moment on my main 'random sessions' board - It's a clone of the T-Rex Fuel Tank Junior Mk1 (which is on my other board), and is actually really rather decent and cheap enough that it's cheaper than a lot of the wall wart daisy chain solutions.

5 fully isolated and well regulated 9v outs for £23.99 - can't argue with that. It's been dead silent and smooth even in venues which have bothered some much more expensive PSUs. I have one particular delay (Marshall Echohead, used purely with tap tempo for rhythmic delay type stuff) which throws a fit if the power isn't 100% stable and clean, works perfectly with the HB. Really wasn't expecting much of it at all, but it has turned out to be every bit as good as my T-Rex, so it's staying. :lol:

Only problem is if you have particularly power hungry pedals, as like the Fuel Tank Jnr, each out can only support 120ma and 9v. More than enough for most pedals though, and powers that board (Polytune, Crybaby, Carl Martin DC Drive, Phase 90, an ancient Guyatone Twin Analog Delay & the aforementioned Echohead) perfectly. You can use two outputs to double the voltage or current if required with a Y cable, of course.


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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:40 am
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torresfan wrote:
I use a T-REX Fuel Tank classic.

That's the one. :D

It's such a lo-o-o-ong time since I played out somewhere that even had dirty floors, let alone dirty power. I just use it at home cos it keeps everything neat and simple.

BTW, it's often surprisingly easy to pick these sorts of units up in new condition and quite cheap on Ebay. There must be so many guys out there with the money to buy all the nice gear - and then discover they can't play the guitar! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:03 am
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Ceri wrote:
There must be so many guys out there with the money to buy all the nice gear - and then discover they can't play the guitar! :lol:

Cheers - C


Hell of a lot of that around here - apparently sometime in the undetermined past, the 'average rather inept pub covers rig' became a PRS Custom, a Two Rock (occasionally coupled with a Mesa) and a board of boutique pedals. Which, of course, normally sounds exactly the same when they play it as a Squier through a Marshall MG would have done. :lol:

It's got to the point locally that if I see anyone in a band with a ratty old Squier or an Epiphone with an amp covered in gaffer tape, I think "Aha! They're probably actually going to be good!" :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:11 am
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It's got to the point locally that if I see anyone in a band with a ratty old Squier or an Epiphone with an amp covered in gaffer tape, I think "Aha! They're probably actually going to be good!" :mrgreen:

Haha - my brother-in-law is a fine player but an awful gear snob. I took him to see Liane Carroll at Ronnie Scott's and he was contemptuous that her guitarist was using a Squier. I suggested; why don't we have a listen to what he's playing on it...? :)

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:14 am
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There isn't any secret magic component in the expensive PSU's. It's all just transformers, rectifiers, smoothing caps and voltage regulators. As long as it delivers clean voltage and the current drawn from it is within its rated output then there's no difference between the Volts from a "high-end" PSU and the Volts from a cheapo regulated PSU. They're all Volts. The electrons don't sound any better if you bankrupt yourself.

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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:19 pm
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I use a OneSpot with an 8 pin daisy. I also carry an extra one of each in the bag... just in case, but so far, so good.
I built the board myself... it's called the "Frankenstomp" :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: pedal power question
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:21 pm
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I use a chain for power and a piece of wood to keep my pedals off the floor. I know it's a little flashy, but that's just how I roll. :lol:


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