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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:57 pm
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Sarigul,

I respect your opinion but that said, I respect Lemmy's bass playing more.

Check out what he does on this song, especially the lead at about 1:50...



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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:59 pm
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Only thing that matters is the sound coming out of the speakers. How it got there is not really the point. I could see saying he has non-conventional style that may not work well for all people, therefore may not be the best way to teach or learn. But you can't deny it worked for him. Based on the sound he produces he is a great bass player. I have always tried to use correct form and nice technique when playing just because it mattered to me, but I have run across many guitarist that did not and could play circles around me. So, who am I to say their way in not valid. Hendrix would use his thumb over the top of the neck a lot. I wonder what great classical players would say about that. There are fundamentals to learn based on what will most likely allow you to develop to your potential and avoid hurting yourself, beyond that, to each their own.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:04 am
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This thread could have just as well been called, Broccoli:Why I don't like it. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:57 am
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Highline wrote:
Sarigul,

I respect your opinion but that said, I respect Lemmy's bass playing more.

Check out what he does on this song, especially the lead at about 1:50...



Cheers!


Sorry, honestly not impressed with the song.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:59 am
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
Only thing that matters is the sound coming out of the speakers. How it got there is not really the point. I could see saying he has non-conventional style that may not work well for all people, therefore may not be the best way to teach or learn. But you can't deny it worked for him. Based on the sound he produces he is a great bass player. I have always tried to use correct form and nice technique when playing just because it mattered to me, but I have run across many guitarist that did not and could play circles around me. So, who am I to say their way in not valid. Hendrix would use his thumb over the top of the neck a lot. I wonder what great classical players would say about that. There are fundamentals to learn based on what will most likely allow you to develop to your potential and avoid hurting yourself, beyond that, to each their own.


Thats the point I don't like the sound which is fundamentally because he hits all available on his bass at the same time.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:14 am
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Some thoughts. The shorts photo was a scream. The cheesecake nipple shot had me shooting coffee out my nose. I actually liked the video better than the publicity shots.

As for the OP not liking his playing style, I respect his talent but I can see where a more classic style electric bassist might say that you don't like it.

Being untypical is precisely why it works in a 3 piece hard rock group. Put Lemmy in about anything else playing that same style and it might not fit so well.

We all have our influences. While Lemmy was never one of mine and there's not a lot there I could take and use, I have to admit he has a very unique style. I accept that like Jaco and Flea there are players heavily influenced by Lemmy, while I'm just not in the same groove with any of the three.

While not technically correct or orthodox Lemmy's style seems to work nicely for the situation. If he quit or became otherwise unavailable he'd be nearly impossible to replace. On the other hand he's probably not going to get calls for session work either. He's a niche musician who happens to be a superstar in the hard rock world.

There are about 500,000 bassists that would like to be in his position, but only a handful who could actually cover his technique. Who am I to criticize another artist? I do not take criticism well myself and face it, he's successful and skilled at what he does.

I was once in a band where I thumb chorded a few things. Haven't in like 30 years though. I do use chording to check tuning and intonation sometimes, especially on an instrument I'm checking out to buy.

And yes Ringo does hold his sticks incorrectly and is one of the best drummers in the world, being number 2 in my book to Bob Burns. Ringo can also sing a bit. You left out Gene Simmons whose heavy handed left hand technique is not exactly classic either yet gets the job done.

I think you are better off to have something unique going on than to be totally orthodox in a small band like this. An old school R&B player like me wouldn't last a New York minute in Motorhead.


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:14 pm
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Sarigul wrote:
Thats the point I don't like the sound which is fundamentally because he hits all available on his bass at the same time.


So you don't like his technique or his sound. Well, OK.

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This thread could have just as well been called, Broccoli:Why I don't like it. :roll:


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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:05 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
Sarigul wrote:
Thats the point I don't like the sound which is fundamentally because he hits all available on his bass at the same time.


So you don't like his technique or his sound. Well, OK.

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This thread could have just as well been called, Broccoli:Why I don't like it. :roll:


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:16 pm
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Lemmy's bass defined the sound Hawkwind of the 70s. It defined metal in the 80s and he and Motorhead, arguably spawned every sub- genre of thrash metal after that.

I lie what he does a lot, but Broccoli is overrated, a bit like this thread.


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:38 pm
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Sarigul wrote:
Sorry, honestly not impressed with the song.

Well thanks for checking it out anyway.

Just goes to show: different strokes for different folks. I've always loved that version of that song.


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:38 pm
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Highline wrote:
Sarigul wrote:
Sorry, honestly not impressed with the song.

Well thanks for checking it out anyway.

Just goes to show: different strokes for different folks. I've always loved that version of that song.


Of course, tastes have to different. I am sure there are thousands of people who adore the song, its just not my type.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:25 pm
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You're just pissed cause he's playing Rickenbacker instead of a Fender. Nothing wrong with his playing. Chords on the bass isn't new. Jack Bruce still does it, and Felix Pappalardi did in the later 1960's.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:08 am
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Mr. Nylon wrote:
You're just pissed cause he's playing Rickenbacker instead of a Fender. Nothing wrong with his playing. Chords on the bass isn't new. Jack Bruce still does it, and Felix Pappalardi did in the later 1960's.


I like Rickenbackers. Very cool looks and distinctive tone. I would want one in Midnight blue :)

I don't mind chording but I do mind slamming the strings hard as possible. Its not about his guitar its about his playing style.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:08 am
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If you've ever seen Jack Bruce play, you'd swear he's going to rip the strings off of the bass. That's always been his style for 47 plus years. I do know what you're saying though.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:40 pm
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I still think Lemmy is a music icon!


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