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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:37 pm
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I would not be tempted to enter the argument about Jimi Hendrix :D

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:26 pm
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Not so much his technique, as his sound. He's just like the guy from Venom. You can dislike it as much as you want, but Lemmy is still a legend, and still an incredible musician.

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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:27 pm
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Looks like he is pulling the G string off the fretboard as he plays.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:42 pm
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For Lemmy fans :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:41 am
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I've been playing bass since '69. My influences were, Entwhistle, Jamerson, McCartney, Cassady, Bruce, Kay, Bogert, Jones, Clarke to name a few. I didn't even know Lemmy played bass. As far as I'm concerned, he's a bass playing brother. Another artist doing it his way and making a living at it. I salute him.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:04 am
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Sarigul, I have to admit that I did not understand the question :oops:
Lemmy is the king of hard rock bass guitarists. There are some amazing bass guitarists in the business, many have signature bass guitars and some have gold records and awards and they know music theory and chart songs for orchestra's etc. etc. etc. Lemmy and his Rickenbacker through stacks of Marshalls owns the rock, metal, hard rock genre's. Owns them. Long after all of the so called bass guitar virtuosos are forgotten, and you can bank that they will be, young rockers will still be learning Motorhead songs for one simple reason, Lemmy is a great rock and roll guitar player and it's fun to bang out all of Lemmy's bass guitar licks. If you find some time one of these days, get into it, you just might learn something fresh that will put a smile on your face as well. :D
Wasn't sure what responses you'd get, the thread turned out to be cool, thanks for posting 8)

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:18 am
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I think Lemmy's playing was great here. Hard driving and rocking, like all good rock/metal should be. The fact he sounds more like a guitarist is a bonus. It would sound even better listening there live rather than through crap PC speakers.

Most standard bass players are pretty boring. Not Lemmy!

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:53 am
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Well it is true album sales aren't everything, because there are plenty of people who have sold lots of albums entertainers that have sold millions, but If you are able to do it for 40 years and still pack every venue you play then you have done something right. Motorhead if I'm not mistaken releases a new album almost every 2 years which would I think make it 20 albums that they have released whereas one of the worlds most beloved bassists, Paul mccartney has been getting buy playing the same old Beatles songs for the better part of the last 30 years and performing only a handful of concerts every year. Now is that to say I'm a fan of Motorhead or Paul Mccartney well no I'm not a huge fan of either I an however able to see that both have had different roads to there stardom and both are still going strong after all these years and that no matter whether you like them or not you need to respect.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:10 am
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God forbid we ever do something the wrong way, becomes really famous, and earn millions of dollars doing it.... :wink:
But to each his own, you're definitely entitled to your opinion and I respect that.
Oh and by the way, I think I'm a decent bass player, not that it matters.

Which raises another question, maybe for a different thread. How many musicians have made it doing things "the wrong way"? Or is there a "wrong way" if thats what works? Hmmmm.....

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:28 am
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How many musicians have made it doing things "the wrong way"?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
You don't really need anybody to answer that question do you?
Think about it.....

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:21 pm
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Noooooooope. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:25 am
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While I'm not a fan or a non-fan of Lemmy (and Motörhead in general), having a different/weird technique should not (in itself) make you dislike a player.

If you don't like him, that's cool, but a weird/unique/odd/wrong technique shouldn't be the reason.

Many/most of the greatest players in history did things "wrong", whether due to ignorance, handicap, being deprived of an adequate instrument, laziness, or poor training...and many of them developed a new technique or tried something new/different just to make the sounds in their head come out...

Django Reinhard: yes, he had a reason to use that technique (his claw, erm..hand had been injured in a fire), but dang, it is unique.
Carl Perkins: said he played his bends to compensate for having to "repair" strings by twisting broken ones back together. He couldn't play on certain frets because of the splices, so he bent up to that note, thus inventing a stylistic aspect of rockabilly...all because he couldn't afford new strings all the time.
Keith Richards: his mid-70's five string excursions turned the way people play open G on it's head.
Jeff Beck: nobody uses a whammy bar like that, but it sounds dang good.
Ike Turner: ditto my Jeff Beck statement.
Albert King and Doyle Bramhall II: don't have a left handed axe? Then just flip a righty over--don't bother changing the strings around.
The Edge: what the heck is he doing, and how does is still work even without his pedalboard? (see the acoustic excursions on "Rattle & Hum")
Muddy Waters: simple...until you try to replicate it.
Eddie "Guitar Slim" Jones: quit playing behind your head and doing the splits and...that's bad technique!
Pat Hare: when everybody else was trying to play "clean", he was overdriven, fuzzed and distorted--all at once!
Jimmie Vaughan, Albert Collins, et al: what you need that capo for? Just to sound AWESOME...
Dozens of players of all genres: Alternate/Open/Dropped/Self-Created Tunings? That's "wrong"! 440 is the only proper tuning...yeah, right.
Roy Buchanan: leave them knobs alone, boy!
BB King can't play rhythm guitar, and he can't play and sing simultaneously...sounds good to me.
Jimi Hendrix: 'Nuff said.
Little Walter: all harp playing falls into two eras: BLW and ALW (Before Little Walter and After Little Walter)...what Muddy and T-Bone did by electrifying the guitar, Little Walter did in electrifying the harmonica.
Lee Oskar: makes all harp/harmonica players say, "Huh?"
John Popper: see "Lee Oskar"
Paul Butterfield: only used half his harp and held the dang thing upside down.
Ringo Starr holds his sticks wrong.
Dizzy Gillespie: every first-lesson trumpet player will tell you you're not supposed to puff out your cheeks...unless you want to create a new form of jazz.

There's a million other examples. Every great leap forward is oftentimes a blow to "proper" use or technique to that instrument. You can hate on Lemmy all you want, but don't do it because of poor technique.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:31 am
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A band many of you grew to love and adore, Nirvana, featured a bass player named Krist Novelselic. Krist not only strummed with a pick, but he gripped it between his thumb and middle and ring fingers, leaving his index finger curled up out of way, unused. He probably did that simply because he started that way without lessons and it became a bad habit. It is commonly understood among Nirvana fans that Krist's bass playing was an essential--yet often overlooked and underappreciated--part of Nirvana's sound. Krist (and Dave on drums) would hold the groove together while Kurt would often do random freakout noise.

By the way, Krist can play funky. He used to play Flea type stuff messing around with Dave between songs, while Kurt tuned. But he would then proclaim, "White boy funk sucks!" right before diving into the next Nirvana song.


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:48 pm
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i'm having a Lemmy statue built for the yard and my wife is okay with it. nuff' said.


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:54 pm
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jeebus wrote:
i'm having a Lemmy statue built for the yard and my wife is okay with it. nuff' said.


The one with the shorts? :mrgreen:

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