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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:57 am
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Minnesotastrats wrote:
What the pluck. :shock:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Good one strats!

Let's keep it friendly everybody. the Forums have been so dead lately, why can't we all just get along? :wink:

Seriously, I'm not really a Motorhead fan, I like them, just not one of my favorites. Lemmy is an icon and has the admiration of countless fans, as well as other musicians. He may not be everyone's favorite, but he has pursued his dream and been successful.


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:13 pm
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Just noticed, no offence but non of you use the bass guitar as a primary instrument? :?: :mrgreen:


No offense taken! :)
Playing bass or not has nothing to do with being able to judge or accept somebody's style.

Motörhead is famous and it worked for their music.
What more can a musician ask for?

Just because somebody plays different from the millions of bassists which sound like clones from each other .... who cares?

I assume you're mainly a bass player, Sarigul?
Well, I heard a lot about Lemmy but I never heard about you! :wink: :wink: :wink:
(meant as a little provoking but friendly joke!)

The music world would be boring without "renegades" like Lemmy and other popular but not so traditional musicians. :wink:



Comparing me and Lemmy is not going to get us anywhere :mrgreen:


What I am trying to say is he is a guitar player on a bass. This method have worked with Motorhead no doubt but this doesn't mean he is a good bass player.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:21 pm
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Sarigul wrote:
This method have worked with Motorhead no doubt but this doesn't mean he is a good bass player.


I would say the complete opposite - for that band, that is the perfect bass style. You can't ask for a better bassist than one who does exactly what the music requires. I'd rather listen to Lemmy than the legion of other bassists who have no clue how to play for the song.

I'm not actually a massive fan of Motorhead or Lemmy - but I do appreciate when playing is just right for the job at hand. What bass style would you suggest he plays with them?

Lemmy can actually play bass in a much more conventional manner, I've seen him on various guest spots sounding almost scarily normal. :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:22 pm
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bigdave78 wrote:
Your view of Lemmy's Bass technique is like saying look at Jimi Hendrix he doesn't play guitar with cookie cutter technique. Lemmy may not be the best bass player in the world but his music is good and has worked for him for over 40 years.

So how many albums have you sold with your great bass technique?

Not to be insulting but we all have things we like and things we don't and that what makes music so great.


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Hendrix is a guitar god. Is Lemmy a bass god, absolutely not. The number of albums you sell doesn't make you a better musician. If that was the case Spice Girls would have been 'greater' musicians than most rock bands, including Motorhead.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:35 pm
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Vulpinity wrote:
Sarigul wrote:
This method have worked with Motorhead no doubt but this doesn't mean he is a good bass player.


I would say the complete opposite - for that band, that is the perfect bass style. You can't ask for a better bassist than one who does exactly what the music requires. I'd rather listen to Lemmy than the legion of other bassists who have no clue how to play for the song.

I'm not actually a massive fan of Motorhead or Lemmy - but I do appreciate when playing is just right for the job at hand. What bass style would you suggest he plays with them?

Lemmy can actually play bass in a much more conventional manner, I've seen him on various guest spots sounding almost scarily normal. :lol:


There are a three piece band with a drummer, a lead guitar, and Lemmy. I think Lemmy also fills up the empty space required for a rhythm guitar in a heavy metal band.

Although I don't adore it, I also don't mind him playing like this in Motorhead.

But..

He also played in the same technique with Hawkwind and others, which required a completely different sound, maybe one of the reasons they continued their way with other bassists.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:56 pm
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Sarigul wrote:
He also played in the same technique with Hawkwind and others, which required a completely different sound, maybe one of the reasons they continued their way with other bassists.


His departure from Hawkwind was more due to being arrested for crossing the Canadian border in possession of amphetamines. When he was released from jail he found the band had departed without him. I don't think Hawkwind did anything of any great significance after Lemmy's exit.

Edit: There was this though

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:16 pm
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Sarigul wrote:
Hendrix is a guitar god. Is Lemmy a bass god, absolutely not. The number of albums you sell doesn't make you a better musician. If that was the case Spice Girls would have been 'greater' musicians than most rock bands, including Motorhead.


Comparing what Lemmy has done, to a manufactured pop act is a massive insult. He did exactly what he damn well pleased and if the records sold, great.

He hasn't relied on a network tie in, shopping mall tours, being pushed as a big 'product', only to be disposed of when interest dies off.

He's worked his butt off around the world countless times, making little money from gigs - even though they get packed out everywhere. He 66 and still doing it, when by all rights he should be dead.

And you think what's important is your opinion he can't play very well? You know what Lemmy would say don't you?


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:24 pm
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I have to agree with the OP.

I am a decent bassist and I do understand.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:46 pm
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Sarigul wrote:
Hendrix is a guitar god.


And yet I can't stand his music or his playing.

Sarigul wrote:
Is Lemmy a bass god, absolutely not.


And yet I like his music and his playing. A lot.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:55 pm
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GilgaFrank wrote:
Sarigul wrote:
Hendrix is a guitar god.

And yet I can't stand his music or his playing.
Sarigul wrote:
Is Lemmy a bass god, absolutely not.

And yet I like his music and his playing. A lot.


Same here. Been listening to Motorhead all my life, just couldn't get into Hendrix at all. Everything great Hendrix did was done better by Roy Buchanan IMO. Without any pedals.

While we're on about being 'good', another is Steve Vai - technically peerless. Boring as bat droppings; the David Copperfield of guitar - all showmanship and glitz, and instantly forgettable.

Talent and popularity have never had a linear correlation.


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:01 pm
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Drubbing wrote:
Same here. Been listening to Motorhead all my life, just couldn't get into Hendrix at all. Everything great Hendrix did was done better by Roy Buchanan IMO. Without any pedals.

While we're on about being 'good', another is Steve Vai - technically peerless. Boring as bat droppings; the David Copperfield of guitar - all showmanship and glitz, and instantly forgettable.

Talent and popularity have never had a linear correlation.


You're the first person I've encountered on a guitar forum who is prepared to admit to not liking Vai and Hendrix.

Please marry me and have my babies.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:07 pm
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GilgaFrank wrote:
You're the first person I've encountered on a guitar forum who is prepared to admit to not liking Vai and Hendrix.

Please marry me and have my babies.

I'm sorry, I've made a promise to Dave Grohl...


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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:26 pm
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GilgaFrank wrote:
Sarigul wrote:
He also played in the same technique with Hawkwind and others, which required a completely different sound, maybe one of the reasons they continued their way with other bassists.


His departure from Hawkwind was more due to being arrested for crossing the Canadian border in possession of amphetamines. When he was released from jail he found the band had departed without him. I don't think Hawkwind did anything of any great significance after Lemmy's exit.

Edit: There was this though


Drugs was one of the reasons, but hawkwind members also used all sorts of stuff but except for amphetamines which does not go terrible well with prog rock.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:31 pm
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Drubbing wrote:
Sarigul wrote:
Hendrix is a guitar god. Is Lemmy a bass god, absolutely not. The number of albums you sell doesn't make you a better musician. If that was the case Spice Girls would have been 'greater' musicians than most rock bands, including Motorhead.


Comparing what Lemmy has done, to a manufactured pop act is a massive insult. He did exactly what he damn well pleased and if the records sold, great.

He hasn't relied on a network tie in, shopping mall tours, being pushed as a big 'product', only to be disposed of when interest dies off.

He's worked his butt off around the world countless times, making little money from gigs - even though they get packed out everywhere. He 66 and still doing it, when by all rights he should be dead.

And you think what's important is your opinion he can't play very well? You know what Lemmy would say don't you?



You just explained the reasons why I think album sales are irrelevant. I wanted to make my point clear that album sales do not always go in relation with how good play their instruments or how good pieces of music they make.

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Post subject: Re: Lemmy - Why I don't like his bass technique
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:36 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
I have to agree with the OP.

I am a decent bassist and I do understand.


Thank you. 8)

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