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Post subject: Re: The Importance of Bending to Make the Guitar Wail
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:21 pm
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as being a huge fan of Nirvana, i think Kurt was a great song writer,
but limited on guitar soloing, which is not a bad thing.
just look at the Beatles, great song writers, but not great solos.
in the big picture, i think it's more important to be better song writer than a guitar hero.
if you ever try to make it big, you will go much further with great written songs.
every city in this country has a hundred guitarist that can solo their $@! off,
but only maybe 1 can write songs really well.
believe me, it's much harder to write well than to solo.

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Post subject: Re: The Importance of Bending to Make the Guitar Wail
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:47 pm
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Her Wanna wrote:
Everything is subjective...


Certainly not everything, but many things are. Like this thread which started out: "I would like to get y'all's thoughts..."

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I purposely chose this one to give the Boomers a demonstration, because the Boomers here will not have heard it. Only Nirvana fans who go to the deep cuts have heard of this song, which is a cult classic among serious fans... The purpose of this thread was to see if any of the Boomers who think guitar playing started and stopped with Eric Clapton and that guy from "the Who" would think this is a good solo.


I think you're being a little disingenuous and really just backhandedly jabbing at the 'old folks' on the Forum, or as asgeirman put it: "I sense a strong urge here to put people into cubicles..." .

You may be making the assumption that anyone born before the invention of the Compact Disc doesn't (or can't) appreciate Nirvana and this simply isn't true.

But, that wasn't your question, you asked if people liked a particular solo from a particular song. Don't misconstrue their answers to be some sort of declaration about Nirvana as a whole.

The reason anyone knows of Nirvana is that they found a niche that allowed them to stand out from the other bands of the day. Whether it was their composition, lyrics, talent or image. Every generation seems to take hold of a band they can call their own, and the Nirvana craze was just part of that.

I was born smack in the middle of the post-war Baby Boom. There is some Nirvana I like and some I do not. Some which is good and some which is not good.

Having lived through 50's R&R, Elvis, Surf music, the British Invasion, Funk, Motown, New Age, Punk, Indie, Alternative eras, I appreciate that each has contributed some great things to Music as a whole. When Bleach was released in '89, I thought they really had something. But some of that quality was lost through subsequent albums... that they seemed to shift more & more toward the Mainstream. And why not... that's where the money was!

Nirvana too has certainly contributed. But set against the backdrop of all of post-war popular music, I have to be honest and say that they don't make my Top Ten List. That doesn't make me a 'hater' or an 'Old Fogey' as you seem to imply.

As you said: "Everything is subjective... " and if Nirvana tops your Top Ten List, I'm all for it. But it kinda makes me think that your knowledge of Music is somewhat narrow. That's OK, if you truly like Music, I suspect that your opinion won't remain set in stone. Certainly mine hasn't.

BTW, that guy from "the Who" is named Pete Townshend, and from a technical standpoint, Cobain couldn't even carry his water... my opinion of course.

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Post subject: Re: The Importance of Bending to Make the Guitar Wail
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:53 pm
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Hi RBC-CA-USA I haven't heard a lot from the bands that you have mentioned but over the years I've been into alternative music and a lot of these bands have been highly influenced by music of other cultures and music from mediaeval times and the days of madrigals when semi-tones were often used in the music.One group from the late 60s-early 70s who made a great use of music from the middle ages was Gryphon who played prog/classical rock long before E.L.O.,Audience and others who followed.White Noise was also a precursor to synthesized music who made use of semi and demi tones that resulted in some incredible,intricate music.Cheers.

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Post subject: Re: The Importance of Bending to Make the Guitar Wail
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:26 pm
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Lightnin MN wrote:
...that guy from "the Who" is named Pete Townshend, and from a technical standpoint, Cobain couldn't even carry his water... my opinion of course.

cheers!

I see no need to qualify that statement with a "humble opinion" caveat. The truth is what it is and it don't need no apologies or excuses. You go right on ahead and have at 'er.

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Post subject: Re: The Importance of Bending to Make the Guitar Wail
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:56 pm
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Bending or strumming, wailing or whispering, just develop your own sound and style.

All the greats--Cobain to Clapton, Walker to Waters (Muddy or Roger, take your pick), Wolf to White...they have their own thing that works/worked for them...

Do your own thing.

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