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Post subject: big muff pi question
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:51 pm
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so i recently purchased one of the modern big muffs without the tone wicker. my issue is that at rehearsal the other day it would not cut through the mix. it worked great for fuzzy thick background noise but not for leads. i even tried switching to the brige pickup(i normally play on the neck)and turned the tone on the b.m. all the way up. even after running my ts through it there was little change.

my question is should i add an eq to boost for leads or a linear boost?

maybe the pedal is not for me?

help me out guys thanks

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Post subject: Re: big muff pi question
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:38 pm
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I'll tell you what I do... run a DS-1 right behind it, tone all the way up and distorion all the way down. gives it a nice treble balance. hope this helps!

EDIT- distortion all the way down , for sure. just using the ds-1 for the tone boost. and the great thing about this idea is that you can get a ds-1 for like 25 bucks all day long. :)

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Post subject: Re: big muff pi question
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:16 pm
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What type of amp are you playing this concoction through?

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Post subject: Re: big muff pi question
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:29 pm
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Welcome the the Big Muff. They have a habit of completely disappearing in the mix. :lol:

The problem is that the tone circuit always gives a substantial (about 10db!) mid cut, no matter where it is set. To use it for lead, you really have to run it into an already overdriven amp with the mids boosted, or run it into another pedal - you say "even after running my ts through it there was little change", if by TS you mean Tube Screamer, then try putting it after the Muff - Tube Screamers generally have a big midrange hump, so might put some of the meat back in the Pi.

If you're handy with a soldering iron, it only takes five minutes to add that midrange back in, plenty of guides around on the web.


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Post subject: Re: big muff pi question
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:15 pm
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Vulpinity wrote:
Welcome the the Big Muff. They have a habit of completely disappearing in the mix... you say "even after running my ts through it there was little change", if by TS you mean Tube Screamer, then try putting it after the Muff - Tube Screamers generally have a big midrange hump, so might put some of the meat back in the Pi.

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Another good pedal to put after a Big Muff is a boost, like a MXR Micro Amp or an equalizer pedal with a volume slider...

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:23 am
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I've been using the same Big Muff Pi for over 40 years and I've found that if the tone has too much treble it just won't cut through the mix.When you roll the tone right over to full bass it gets too muddy,I've found that if you adjust the tone control to the point that the sharpness of the treble disappears, that gives you (well me at least)a smooth "woman" tone that cuts through any mix and comes out on top of everything else.If you still are having trouble cutting through,try a good boost pedal such as the Way Huge Green Rhino or Marshall Guv'nor at a clean boost setting either immediately before or after the Big Muff.I hope this is of some help to you.I've tried and bought many other distortion units but I always end up coming back to the Muff because it's in my opinion the best unit ever made.Cheers.

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Post subject: Re: big muff pi question
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:15 pm
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thanks for the replies guys. to answer a few questions, i mainly run my board through a blues jr with a cannabis rex speaker(very low end focused speaker) with the volume(gain) at about ten, my eq on the amp is set with the bass at 5 and mids/highs at 12.

when i said "ts" im referring to a ts808 ri with the knobs set d=1oclock v=1 oclock and my tone at about 11oclock.

my pedal board now goes. guitar (mim strat modded w/ hotrails in the neck and sh-6 in bridge)to morley wah- ns-2- mxr comp- ts- b.m.- backto ns2 then out to my delay and chorus.

and i did try switching the ts and bm but it gave me this squishy mess of a sound.

thanks again guys

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Post subject: Re: big muff pi question
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:17 pm
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stratgeek888 wrote:
so i recently purchased one of the modern big muffs without the tone wicker. my issue is that at rehearsal the other day it would not cut through the mix. it worked great for fuzzy thick background noise but not for leads. i even tried switching to the brige pickup(i normally play on the neck)and turned the tone on the b.m. all the way up. even after running my ts through it there was little change.

my question is should i add an eq to boost for leads or a linear boost?

maybe the pedal is not for me?

help me out guys thanks

ya you need overdrive :D


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