Christmas Tragedy

1neeto · **Posted:** Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:41 pm

It's a NY Times article...

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

artisan4 wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/opinion/the-gun-challenge-strict-laws-work.html

'Experts from the Harvard School of Public Health, using data from 26 developed countries, have shown that wherever there are more firearms, there are more homicides...

I'm glad Ms. Feinstein and others are taking action to prevent this from happening again.

Unfortunately, that's fascist propaganda meant to trick you.

If you do world wide stats, not just 26 countires, you'll discover the following:

1. Wherever guns are taken from the people; crime rises, oppression comes next, slavery takes hold after that, and then genocide follows, and this is throughout history and current to date!

2. You have a 6,200% greater chance of being killed by your doctor than a crazed gunman, so Feinstein should be banning and prosecuting homicidal doctors and homicidal pharmaceutical company operators -- not banning the only means of protection we have against slavery and genocide.

Here, check out The Health Ranger's The Top Health Stories of 2012: Special Report:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ddUYoO8E9aA

I am so sorry you are being duped by all that fascist propaganda.

Amerigo · **Posted:** Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:55 am

RCB-CA-USA wrote:

1. Wherever guns are taken from the people; crime rises, oppression comes next, slavery takes hold after that, and then genocide follows, and this is throughout history and current to date!

Yeah, just look at Canada and the Vatican. Shootings almost every day! And our media is so "fascist" they don't even report it! "Fascist" is a great word, I have to use it more often! What does it mean, by the way?

Cheers

David

PS: Irony included

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

Amerigo wrote:

RCB-CA-USA wrote:

1. Wherever guns are taken from the people; crime rises, oppression comes next, slavery takes hold after that, and then genocide follows, and this is throughout history and current to date!

1. "Fascist" is a great word, I have to use it more often! What does it mean, by the way?

2. Yeah, just look at Canada

3. ...and the Vatican. Shootings almost every day!

1. Definition of fascism :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXY0F7fDcU

2. Canada:
UNREPENTANT - CANADA'S GENOCIDE (documentary)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfuY9t3VhCo

3. The Vatican:
SECRETS OF THE VATICAN PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD0ICimSmzc
SECRETS OF THE VATICAN PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot7Gx_a6lnU
SECRETS OF THE VATICAN PART 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2a9GRhKT-E
SECRETS OF THE VATICAN PART 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxmhpjnh6GU
SECRETS OF THE VATICAN PART 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvXZ-v1k8nY
SECRETS OF THE VATICAN PART 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXFre4fMlVU

We can discuss the Jewish Talmud and Islamic Koran after you get through all that. Same thing, oppressive, destructive, fascist religious zealots seeking total domination of humans via slavery and genocide!

Here's a primer on the Judaic Talmud when you get done with the above.
Judaism Exposed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Znws-GqKyY

Here's a primer on Islam.
The shocking video Muslims don't want you to see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gzyeo1Z1I4

If everybody would just follow the Ten Commandments and skip all the dogma and hate, we can get back to barn building and peace!

All of the above directly relates to the OP's concerns.

We are all children of the Creator! Whoever thinks they are above another is wicked!

Amerigo · **Posted:** Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:20 am

RCB-CA-USA wrote:

If everybody would just follow the Ten Commandments and skip all the dogma and hate, we can get back to barn building and peace!

You first

See you in 2013.

Cheers

David

artisan4 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:54 am

Deluxe Matt wrote:

artisan4 wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/opinion/the-gun-challenge-strict-laws-work.html

'Experts from the Harvard School of Public Health, using data from 26 developed countries, have shown that wherever there are more firearms, there are more homicides. In the case of the United States, exponentially more: the American murder rate is roughly 15 times that of other wealthy countries, which have much tougher laws controlling private ownership of guns.

There’s another important difference between this country and the rest of the world. Other nations have suffered similar rampages, but they have reacted quickly to impose new and stricter gun laws.'

I'm glad Ms. Feinstein and others are taking action to prevent this from happening again.

Don't be so quick to be glad, gun laws won't fix crazy.

They reduce crazy. I prefer fewer kids being shot.

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

Video: How Will Military & Police Respond to The Systematic Gun Grab?

Infowars.com
January 1, 2013
Alex Jones talks with Oath Keepers’ Stewart Rhodes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OCDccxJbAT8

Deluxe Matt · **Posted:** Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:10 pm

artisan4 wrote:

Deluxe Matt wrote:

artisan4 wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/opinion/the-gun-challenge-strict-laws-work.html

'Experts from the Harvard School of Public Health, using data from 26 developed countries, have shown that wherever there are more firearms, there are more homicides. In the case of the United States, exponentially more: the American murder rate is roughly 15 times that of other wealthy countries, which have much tougher laws controlling private ownership of guns.

There’s another important difference between this country and the rest of the world. Other nations have suffered similar rampages, but they have reacted quickly to impose new and stricter gun laws.'

I'm glad Ms. Feinstein and others are taking action to prevent this from happening again.

Don't be so quick to be glad, gun laws won't fix crazy.

They reduce crazy. I prefer fewer kids being shot.

Guns laws reduce crazy? Wow, I thought proper mental health screening and professional help did.

Did you know, motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for children of every age? So according to your logic... Why don't you get on your soap box about that?

Roads are killing children! Lets burn the roads!!!

jackdragbean · **Joined:** Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:15 am **Posts:** 405

As far as the "no one uses an "assault rifle" to defend their home" issue, you don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you wouldn't use one, or would rather use a different caliber gun, pistol, knife, etc., but to say nobody needs one for self protection is wrong. My best friend who I've known since we were kids had the unfortunate need to use his M-15 to protect himself and his 2 young daughters from a masked man weilding a 3 ft. crowbar in his living room late one night a few years ago. The masked man was shot and killed as he tried to rush my friend. It happens, and the choice of weapon is just that....choice, but he swears that was the only gun he would have wanted in his hands that night since in most situations concerning guns, there's a 75% chance of all bullets missing within a 15 ft range due to situations, nerves, etc. He was happy to have a large magazine which he unloaded. Since only 3 bullets met their target....and rifles are much easier to control than pistols in such situations.

Not only is the 2nd ammendment there for self protection, but also to keep from oppression of a government. A .22 cal won't do that. If I own the same weapon that the government does, maybe they'll think twice before trying to become oppressive. That's why it's there in the constitution.

And now back to guitar playing.

airbornestrat · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:20 pm

jackdragbean wrote:

As far as the "no one uses an "assault rifle" to defend their home" issue, you don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you wouldn't use one, or would rather use a different caliber gun, pistol, knife, etc., but to say nobody needs one for self protection is wrong. My best friend who I've known since we were kids had the unfortunate need to use his M-15 to protect himself and his 2 young daughters from a masked man weilding a 3 ft. crowbar in his living room late one night a few years ago. The masked man was shot and killed as he tried to rush my friend. It happens, and the choice of weapon is just that....choice, but he swears that was the only gun he would have wanted in his hands that night since in most situations concerning guns, there's a 75% chance of all bullets missing within a 15 ft range due to situations, nerves, etc. He was happy to have a large magazine which he unloaded. Since only 3 bullets met their target....and rifles are much easier to control than pistols in such situations.

Not only is the 2nd ammendment there for self protection, but also to keep from oppression of a government. A .22 cal won't do that. If I own the same weapon that the government does, maybe they'll think twice before trying to become oppressive. That's why it's there in the constitution.

And now back to guitar playing.

I'll just keep my Mossberg pump gun...nothing like a 12 gauge to keep the bad guys away!
Plus, if you continue to walk up when you hear a round being chambered....you deserve what comes out of the business end. The only thing that is kind of irritating about this is when people who are not Americans feel that they have a right to tell us what to do. I am currently stationed in Canada and I have seen things I don't agree with here, but it is not my place to comment on it.
ABS

jackdragbean · **Joined:** Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:15 am **Posts:** 405

airbornestrat wrote:

jackdragbean wrote:

As far as the "no one uses an "assault rifle" to defend their home" issue, you don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you wouldn't use one, or would rather use a different caliber gun, pistol, knife, etc., but to say nobody needs one for self protection is wrong. My best friend who I've known since we were kids had the unfortunate need to use his M-15 to protect himself and his 2 young daughters from a masked man weilding a 3 ft. crowbar in his living room late one night a few years ago. The masked man was shot and killed as he tried to rush my friend. It happens, and the choice of weapon is just that....choice, but he swears that was the only gun he would have wanted in his hands that night since in most situations concerning guns, there's a 75% chance of all bullets missing within a 15 ft range due to situations, nerves, etc. He was happy to have a large magazine which he unloaded. Since only 3 bullets met their target....and rifles are much easier to control than pistols in such situations.

Not only is the 2nd ammendment there for self protection, but also to keep from oppression of a government. A .22 cal won't do that. If I own the same weapon that the government does, maybe they'll think twice before trying to become oppressive. That's why it's there in the constitution.

And now back to guitar playing.

I'll just keep my Mossberg pump gun...nothing like a 12 gauge to keep the bad guys away!
Plus, if you continue to walk up when you hear a round being chambered....you deserve what comes out of the business end. The only thing that is kind of irritating about this is when people who are not Americans feel that they have a right to tell us what to do. I am currently stationed in Canada and I have seen things I don't agree with here, but it is not my place to comment on it.
ABS

Funny you mentioned that. I deleted half of my previous comment which dealt with: If you aren't from the USA, you really have no say in the matter.

airbornestrat · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:40 pm

jackdragbean wrote:

airbornestrat wrote:

jackdragbean wrote:

As far as the "no one uses an "assault rifle" to defend their home" issue, you don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you wouldn't use one, or would rather use a different caliber gun, pistol, knife, etc., but to say nobody needs one for self protection is wrong. My best friend who I've known since we were kids had the unfortunate need to use his M-15 to protect himself and his 2 young daughters from a masked man weilding a 3 ft. crowbar in his living room late one night a few years ago. The masked man was shot and killed as he tried to rush my friend. It happens, and the choice of weapon is just that....choice, but he swears that was the only gun he would have wanted in his hands that night since in most situations concerning guns, there's a 75% chance of all bullets missing within a 15 ft range due to situations, nerves, etc. He was happy to have a large magazine which he unloaded. Since only 3 bullets met their target....and rifles are much easier to control than pistols in such situations.

Not only is the 2nd ammendment there for self protection, but also to keep from oppression of a government. A .22 cal won't do that. If I own the same weapon that the government does, maybe they'll think twice before trying to become oppressive. That's why it's there in the constitution.

And now back to guitar playing.

I'll just keep my Mossberg pump gun...nothing like a 12 gauge to keep the bad guys away!
Plus, if you continue to walk up when you hear a round being chambered....you deserve what comes out of the business end. The only thing that is kind of irritating about this is when people who are not Americans feel that they have a right to tell us what to do. I am currently stationed in Canada and I have seen things I don't agree with here, but it is not my place to comment on it.
ABS

Funny you mentioned that. I deleted half of my previous comment which dealt with: If you aren't from the USA, you really have no say in the matter.

I just think it is bad form to comment on someone else's home. If you don't like it that is fine just keep it to yourself...that is what my folks always taught me.

ABS

jackdragbean · **Joined:** Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:15 am **Posts:** 405

agreed

Amerigo · **Posted:** Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:57 pm

We just had another shooting in Switzerland. It was an army rifle from World War II. Three dead, two wounded.

My grandfather always told me they were precision rifles. Guess he was right.

David

Deluxe Matt · **Posted:** Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:11 pm

It's cool the way Switzerland has a people's militia. Did you participate or complete training for it? If so, what is it like?

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