I said that I was finished with this thread but something that RCB-CA-USA has posted has prompted me to write.As far as I know he doesn't live in Canada and is apparently relying on information garnered from a documentary that somehow states that there's a genocide going on in Canada.I have lived in Canada all my life and I'm deeply into political issues and human rights issues especially having to do with our indigenous peoples as a goodly number of my relatives are First Nations .There is absolutely no genocide of any type ongoing in Canada and as far as documentaries go there was one on TV a whileback"proving" that Paul McCartney was dead.Documentaries can be a wonderful source of information if presented truthfully by a reputable entity, but in the wrong hands a "documentary" can contain such misinformation that it can not only misinform but be downright mendacious propaganda and even be dangerous by inciting someone with distorted views to act out.

Stephen Harper is a deceitful,mendacious,petty,vindictive perfidious autocrat who is also a far right xenophobe and he treats our indigenous Innu,Innuit and First Nations peoples like dirt,but through all of that there's no genocide happening-not by any stretch.It is difficult for anyone outside of our borders to gain enough correct information to be able to make an informed opinion of our national goings-on,but to make such a statement that there is something as catastrophic and horrendous as genocide going on is really over the top. I know enough to be able to say that there is something wrong somewhere in a system when one after another people with very significant mental health issues can get their hands on firearms with apparently relative ease,but I'd never be accusatory and make sweeping and wildly incorrect statements about gun control etc. that is a debate best left to the people of the US and everyone else should just stand back and pray that it gets resolved sensibly and quickly.I also would expect other people to do likewise with our political and internal issues,especially when they only have hearsay to go by.

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Whats the point of having a gun in the name of "civil liberty" while this "liberty" denies other people ( and mostly random people) their basic right to live? Which one is more important, the right to have a gun or the right to not to be shot at!

Ban on firearms should come..

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I thought you already had a ban on firearms in the UK. Hows that working out for you? The US is number one in gun ownership by far and like 28th in gun violence in the world. We need to ban those darn blunt objects that kill nearly twice the number of people than guns each year, and if you subtract gang related gun violence from that we have nearly none. Just think if we focused on our mental health issues and our inner city gang problems, we might actually do some good. Oh, and the guns that the gang's have are illegal already. These are those pesky little things called facts. But, if you're happy with the laws you have in your country, more power to ya.

Edit: I really like Canada. I think the corporate structure with government is a model that the US needs to look at. Your corporate tax rate is about 23% lower than ours. That's a country that works with its private sector instead of bleeding it dry.

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I'm relying on the concrete info contained in the documentary, plus current info, plus the smoking gun -- the radically diminished Canadian Indian population!

"The Aboriginal Museum was forced to display evidence of the Canadian Genocide (May 14, 2011)"
http://www.examiner.com/article/uncovering-recent-canadian-genocide

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BLACKFOOT INDICTMENT OF THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE US AND CANADA FOR GENOCIDE

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Prof. James Craven | Friday, January 4, 2013, 12:05 Beijing

"The following Indictment has been submitted as supporting evidence and argument in several legal cases in Canada, and in several official submissions to high levels of the U.S. Government, without rebuttals of any kind to its content. It is also published, along with other documents, at Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies

...Documents of and research on, the periods during which the U.S. and Canadian Governments summarily declared Blackfoot Peoples to be “citizens” of the United States and Canada without their consent, reveal that one of the clear and stated motives and intent of summary declaration of citizenship was to summarily declare removed–and to remove–certain “national minorities” of the United States and Canada (including Blackfoot People) from any protection, coverage or application of international law or conventions or treaties to which the U.S. and Canada were signatories and were bound by summarily changing their status to that of “citizens” and thus making their status and treatment an “internal matter” and supposedly not subject to international law; this is in violation of Article 15 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights."

http://www.4thmedia.org/2013/01/04/blackfoot-indictment-of-the-governments-of-the-us-and-canada-for-genocide/





guitslinger, are you the victim of media black-out and propaganda?

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I still steadfastedly maintain that that is just a bunch of fabricated hysteria created for no other reason to rile people up.From what I see of the Examiner it has just as much creedence as the National Enquirer.The indigenous population has a much higher death rate that the people of European extraction but that is largely due to health issues which are largely exascerbated by the woeful neglect and inaction of the Harper Regime. First Nations people have alarmingly high incidences of Heart disease,diabetes,obesity, liver diseases such as sirosis etc.,alcoholism,substance abuse-gas sniffing is rampant in some Innu communities,the aboriginals also have a suicide rate many times the national average and one of the highest in the world.Gang wars among aboriginal youth is also claiming a lot of young lives but there is absolutely not a planned and systematic genocide and anyone who believes the journalistic sensationalism that says that it is,is being misled to no uncertain extent and being very naive.You are sitting on the other side of the fence and reading very predjudiced and biased information and then venturing opinions based on this offal that you are reading.I am as I said living in Canada and Read and listen to credible sources for my information and I unequivocally say that There Is No Genocide Going on In Canada and if there was I would one of the first people that my Aboriginal relatives and friends would tell because of my strong social conscience and my involvement in several human rights agencies and associations plus my numerous political commentaries that have been both published and broadcast in local and national media.That is all I'm going to say on it as I get the feeling that if I post again I'll just be continuing to flog a dead horse.I live here and I KNOW what is going on here,if you still choose to believe the sensationalist rants of a news rag I can't change that but I'm going by what's written and broadcast by the most informed,credible and unbiased political and social commentators and journalists in Canada plus my own social and famial contact with my Cree relatives and my daughter's contact with Innu and Inuit coworkers.

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And USA bidness is your bidness how? Merry Christmas.

guitslinger, if everybody had formal training and an arsenal to defend their life, their home, their community, and this country from foreign invaders (the only way we'd ever survive a war with any hostile modern government, foreign or domestic), for sure, all crime would be near zero, including mass shootings.

And GTG, if we don't maintain diplomatic relations with our neighbors, we'll never be able to enlighten those who are victims of the media black-outs and ruthless propaganda.

Wherever you are from, feel free to chime in here!

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College Park Couple Says Front Yard Vegetable Garden is Under Fire Again

Kristin Giannas
ClickOrlando.com
January 9, 2013

Photo courtesy Jason and Jennifer Helvenston

A College Park couple’s vegetable garden is on the chopping block again after the city threatened fines if they don’t uproot it by Thursday, according to the Institute for Justice Florida Chapter.
Jason and Jennifer Helvenston are launching “Plant a Seed, Change the Law,” a protest of Orlando’s law, which they say violates their constitutional right to peacefully use their property to grow their own food.

In November, Local 6 broke the story about the controversial garden after the city told the Helvenstons their 25-by-25-foot front yard vegetable garden was not in compliance with the city’s code.

http://www.infowars.com/college-park-couple-says-front-yard-vegetable-garden-is-under-fire-again/

This is what the criminal NWO eugenic depopulationists fear most -- self-sufficiency. Self-sufficiency is the solution to our dilemma. Focusing on the problem gives it strength. Focusing on the solution gives the solution strength. It's time to focus on the solution -- self-sufficiency. Every fun loving free thinking individual in the world should make a stand at the Helvenston residence. Whatever it takes. Success here will crush the Nazis (national Zionists) once and for all.

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Nah, I said "the system". You could just as well send all young men to community service. This would serve the society even more.

Cheers

David

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I was writing in relation to firearm laws in the U.S not the U.K. In the U.K even most police officers do not carry firearms, there is no need to, unlike the U.S

Statistics can be misleading firearms in the U.S play a much bigger role then "28th"

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Yes, I know what you were writing in relation to. I present you with facts and you just dismiss them. If you're unwilling to correct me with factual information from credible sources or at least offer a logical argument then I don't see how we can get anywhere.

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Guns were banned in Great Britain 15-years ago. However, the UK has the second highest crime rate in the EU, and the EU named Great Britain "the most violent country in the EU."

Facts:

1. In the UK, there are 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people.
2. In the US, 466 violent crimes per 100,00 people.

We are safer in the US with guns than the UK is without guns, period.

TV Anchor Delivers Blistering Fact-Check of Piers Morgan's Anti-Gun Claims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfZfJubbWik

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Very misleading information.


Some stats from me if you excuse:



Murders committed by youths: UK: 139 US: 8226

Murders with Firearms: UK: 14 US: 9369

Average per year.

No we are safer without guns, then guns

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The information I presented are cold, hard facts. You are safer in the US with guns than you are in the UK without guns and the EU voted Great Britain "the most violent country in the EU."

Further, most gun related crimes in the US can be traced back to false flag operations like Fast and Furious (a false flag operation meant to trick people into giving up their arms so criminal factions within the US can depopulate the planet, see Georgia Guidestones, Agenda 21, Codex Alimentarius):

http://www.infowars.com/dea-acknowledges-supporting-role-in-operation-fast-and-furious/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
"Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21
"...achieving a more sustainable population..."

Codex Alimentarius - The End Of Healthy Food, Minerals and Vitamins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTs408Nzl0A

Watch Codex Alimentarius first. Then, research Agenda 21. Next, research "false flag" operations.

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