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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:16 pm
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I don't read about the blues, I play the blues, and country, and classic rock.

I'm done with you.

Wheres that ignore button?

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:28 pm
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Just so tired of all these fraudsters trying to claim they've such angst with the blues and then driving off in their Ferrari's.

Money doesn't buy happiness. :wink:

... no, but it can buy the kinda misery I can live with :shock:

if you feel it, and it hurts, and you put it to music... and others feel it and hurt along with you, that's a pretty good start.
I've had instrumentals and guitar solos bring me to tears because I felt what was going on.

Loan Me A Dime - Boz Scaggs
Cherry Red Wine - Johnny Lang
Directly From My Heart To You - Frank Zappa

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:43 pm
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Hou-Tex wrote:
I I'm done with you.

Wheres that ignore button?

But yet you keep coming back for more again and again and again.

When we're talking about knowing and understanding where the blues came from etc. reading is a must. How else are you gonna know about it? That's how we learn; by reading about things!! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:00 pm
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Gorgon wrote:
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I I'm done with you.

Wheres that ignore button?

But yet you keep coming back for more again and again and again.

When we're talking about knowing and understanding where the blues came from etc. reading is a must. How else are you gonna know about it? That's how we learn; by reading about things!! :lol:


I'm old enough to have lived it, understand it from the country where it came from. I "FEEL" it, know it's roots and you can't find that in a book or on the internet. Blues comes from a combination of blue grass up north and country music from Bakersfield California to Dallas Texas. The Blues originated in the Mississippi delta along the banks of the river ranging from north to south.

It's impossible to understand the blues from a book. You have to live it and in Texas, we still do Country which is part of the roots of blues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15P5DibIqFY

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:06 pm
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And Howling Wolf.

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:11 pm
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Hou-Tex wrote:
I'm old enough to have lived it, understand it from the country where it came from. I "FEEL" it, know it's roots and you can't find that in a book or on the internet. Blues comes from a combination of blue grass up north and country music from Bakersfield California to Dallas Texas. The Blues originated in the Mississippi delta along the banks of the river ranging from north to south.

It's impossible to understand the blues from a book. You have to live it and in Texas, we still do Country which is part of the roots of blues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15P5DibIqFY

:lol: BS! the nearest you've ever been to understanding blues by the sound of it is watching a documentary on the discovery channel! or you might get really advanced and watch a SRV video!

You don't know the roots of it if you haven't studied any of it from books. Oh teah your daddy propped you up on nhis knee when you were a wee lad and described the tortuous things that the blacks put up with in the delta and about the racism and how they'd get lynched.

You can't learn about the history of what happened a 100 years ago unless you study books.

A for Howlin' Wolf; yeah he was a bluesman but you have to go back a generation or two before that. Study some books on blues history, you need the education if you think Wolf was the origin of the blues.

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:21 pm
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I'm old enough to have lived it, understand it from the country where it came from. I "FEEL" it, know it's roots and you can't find that in a book or on the internet. Blues comes from a combination of blue grass up north and country music from Bakersfield California to Dallas Texas. The Blues originated in the Mississippi delta along the banks of the river ranging from north to south.

It's impossible to understand the blues from a book. You have to live it and in Texas, we still do Country which is part of the roots of blues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15P5DibIqFY

:lol: BS! the nearest you've ever been to understanding blues by the sound of it is watching a documentary on the discovery channel! or you might get really advanced and watch a SRV video!

You don't know the roots of it if you haven't studied any of it from books. Oh teah your daddy propped you up on nhis knee when you were a wee lad and described the tortuous things that the blacks put up with in the delta and about the racism and how they'd get lynched.

You can't learn about the history of what happened a 100 years ago unless you study books.

A for Howlin' Wolf; yeah he was a bluesman but you have to go back a generation or two before that. Study some books on blues history, you need the education if you think Wolf was the origin of the blues.


Whatever dude. You know it all, I'm just a 54 year old guitar player that play's country, blues and classic rock. Read your books all you want. I have a guitar to go through.

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:30 pm
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Hou-Tex wrote:
Whatever dude. You know it all, I'm just a 54 year old guitar player that play's country, blues and classic rock. Read your books all you want. I have a guitar to go through.

Never said i know it all and i make no claims that i do. But i'm not ignorant on the subject either.

And i'm a 50 year old guitar player that plays rock and blues influenced rock. But i'm certainly not arrogant enough to call myself a "blues musician" when i don't come from a background that supports that experience.

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:07 pm
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Does anyone else agree with Gorgon here? I reckon he's just about spot on!

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:24 pm
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Read history books if you will, the blues is about emotion exhibited through music. No matter if it was 70 years ago, or yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54QsO6Bnnbk

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:23 pm
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Hou-Tex wrote:
Read history books if you will, the blues is about emotion exhibited through music. No matter if it was 70 years ago, or yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54QsO6Bnnbk

Saying that's basically saying almost all real music is the blues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rSRLFw2RUc

Thats expressing emotion, but would you call that blues? I don't think so.

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:44 pm
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When I think of the blues, I think of a wide range of music rooted in the work songs of the African slaves of the United States and gospel music.

Today that covers a pretty broad spectrum as there is so much music that, traced back far enough, has it's roots there.


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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:14 am
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Does anyone else agree with Gorgon here? I reckon he's just about spot on!


Oh yes, he's spot on! :D When we say "the blues" what we really mean is "the original bluesmen". There is no genre or musical style called the blues, because 'it' (whatever you can safely call the music the bluesmen were playing) was limited to the original bluesmen - nobody else could ever do 'it' again, unless we bring back slavery, personal suffering, and poverty to African Americans living in the Mississippi Delta area. And then only people who live in that area with the right skin color and poverty level would be transformed into 'bluesmen'.

Anyone else who plays a minor pentatonic scale should be considered spoon fed middle class art school types who have not had the heartbreak and angst in their soul required to be a bluesman.

That's right, you WON! Woo hoo!! Now any chance you 2 hosers can dust it off and put it back up on the shelf? :roll:

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:55 pm
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Oh yes, he's spot on! :D When we say "the blues" what we really mean is "the original bluesmen". There is no genre or musical style called the blues, because 'it' (whatever you can safely call the music the bluesmen were playing) was limited to the original bluesmen - nobody else could ever do 'it' again, unless we bring back slavery, personal suffering, and poverty to African Americans living in the Mississippi Delta area. And then only people who live in that area with the right skin color and poverty level would be transformed into 'bluesmen'.

See this is what i mean ^^^^. I never said that people can't play blues music. What i said was the original definition of the term blues was what i said it was.

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Anyone else who plays a minor pentatonic scale should be considered spoon fed middle class art school types who have not had the heartbreak and angst in their soul required to be a bluesman.

Once again you don't appear to be able to take in what i said! Millions of types of music use the minor pentatonic scale! is that your definition of blues?!!! But let's turmn it 180 degrees: are you saying that someone who's hardest thing they have to decide in life is what their next fender custon shop guitar is gonna be, is a bluesman because he murders a version of "Key To The Highway?"

So what essentially you're saying is that Kenny Wayne Shepherd and John Mayer are bluesmen? that's what you're alluding to. You must be because they both play the blues don't they?

This is the easiest thing in the world wayhay!!; pick up the guitar, mutilate a version of crossroads and... "i'm a bluesman me! i am! and i don't care what you say!"

Same thing for you as for Tex Hour or whatever he's called; you probably think Eric Clapton is a bluesman even though he owns a stable of Ferrari's and antique art objects and that the music came from Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf!! In saying that at least they were bluesmen.

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Post subject: Re: What's your definition of the blues?
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Gorgon, I think you are one of the original 'bluesmen'. Where can I buy your album? :D

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