Oh, I was kidding about telling cancer patients they should leave the country if they are upset their life savings are being drained because of greed. The guy from Minnesota was just being cruel. Single-payer/healthcare for all is coming, I just need it now. Won't be buying any Fenders if Cigna and the hospital have all my money.

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I have to agree, Healthcare prices are rediculous. A general doctors office visit between
130-160, double to triple if they're a specialist. The cost for the patient
has doubled or X2.5 for Diagnostic procedures ie MRI, CT etc.
Just in 2012, the fear of Obamacare has nationwide hosp corporate
cutting spending ,ie hours, cut 18% of needed staff at my facility,
definitely Zero Overtime.
Now, since 1996 when I graduated from college, starting pay
for "nurses" went from 14/hr to 19/hr , radiology techs from 9.5/hr
to 18.5/hr. minimum wage went up from 5.25-what is it now7.5/hr
Around my demographic area give or take 200-300 miles range.

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Sorry, had to continue here
The point I was trying to make, I don't know where Obamacare
will take us, I work in the medical field, somethings gonna give.

Now the tax bracket system sucks, because I'm roughly paying
18-30% taxes. Every yr is diff, last year I Made 17000 less the prev
yr, this year prob around the same.

Sorry for the ramble,
I had a couple of random thoughts

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Here is a foreigner who is not arguing USA politics. You won't find a single post of mine on this thread except for this one. I am, however, quite intrigued by this particular post election demographics study. I wouldn't be stupid enough to stick my neck out and offer an opinion on what these numbers really mean but whatever they mean (and I think I have an inkling) I suspect something similar happens here in Canada as well.

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It should be noted that the above referenced data is ranked "by percentage of residents 25 years of age or older with college degree or more"

This is an extremely poor way to represent data and certainly does not show the "best and worst educated states".

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I hate to agree with him, but it's close enough. Can you imagine how many of us in those states were in Romney's 47%? But still voted for him and the 1%. Thems some double-dumb folks.

I will trust you since you are in one of the better educated states. However, even a redneck like me can tell somethings strange about these statistics.

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Are you sure?

State Graduates as of 2010
California 1,998,766
New York 1,302,196
Texas 1,143,206
Florida 816,946
Illinois 798,362
Pennsylvania 654,558
Ohio 537,219
New Jersey 520,299
Virginia 477,103
Georgia 468,360
North Carolina 462,802
Massachusetts 454,219
Michigan 434,937
Washington 373,615
Minnesota 350,909
Maryland 339,891
Colorado 307,961
Missouri 300,234
Indiana 297,250
Wisconsin 291,007
Arizona 283,867
Tennessee 268,430
South Carolina 205,399
Oregon 194,831
Connecticut 190,044
Alabama 189,259
Kentucky 185,574
Louisiana 183,852
Iowa 172,115
Utah 168,410
Kansas 157,023
Oklahoma 152,441
Mississippi 120,894
Nevada 109,514
Nebraska 107,058
Arkansas 105,468
D.C. 82,098
New Mexico 74,586
Hawaii 73,472
Idaho 66,871
New Hampshire 65,715
West Virginia 64,730
Rhode Island 53,777
Maine 53,357
Montana 48,068
North Dakota 43,893
South Dakota 42,317
Delaware 41,283
Alaska 31,967
Vermont 30,737
Wyoming 24,821

http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/n ... -2020-goal

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I'm still pretty sure. All those grads, including my brothers and sister, her husband, and on and on, all move out to where jobs are. All that's left is us.

All the Broo-ha-ha about obamacare is really just noise and not the root problem...

Since it's passage, no less than 58% (and often more) of the TOTAL population has been against obamacare, for whatever reasons... ignorance, unconstitutionality... IT DOESN'T MATTER... if the People are against it, it should not be Law... !!

The fact that it is Smoke & Mirrors designed only to pluck at the heartstrings of Americans so as to extort their vote for the betterment of Politicians, that it isn't lowering the cost of healthcare at all... merely making All Americans pay for those who may refuse to take charge of their own health, or whatever...

In all seriousness, there isn't a Healthcare problem in the USA... People ARE NOT Dying in the Streets as I have personally seen in Bangladesh, Guiana, VietNam, even Portugal !!

The issue here is the Cost of Healthcare, and obamacare does NOTHING to eleviate this. It just removes this issue from Public view.

But, the root problem here is that we have a Government who now has the audascity to say "I know better than you do for yourself, and am therefore eliminating your choice..."

What we have is a Government who is now openly opposing the Will of the People...

Despite what you feel about Healthcare, this is the beginning of a VERY slippery $@!&# in the excercise, or rather the constraint, of Personal Liberty. It is an Unconstitutional usurpment of the rights of the People... and this is NEVER correct, no matter what the cause.. !!

Wake Up... the GOVERNMENT will now tell you what you can and cannot do to YOUR Body by dictating and regulating the Healthcare you are entitled to... !!

More and more people are coming of age that have only lived in a period of excess Government Regulation... they are accustomed to it.

But, as many here will know, it was not always like this, nor does it need to be.

As Thos. Jefferson said: " No Liberty was ever surrendered but for the illusion of a Good Cause..."

cheers!

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Have you already forgotten that the people spoke two weeks ago? Their will is in place. In four years, hit it again. It is the American way.

While those statistics are all well and good, aside from what was already mentioned with people with degrees moving away for the jobs, you also can't tell from those statistics which way the people with the degrees actually voted. For all we know in one of the states the majority of those with a degree actually voted for Romney, we just can't tell for sure.

I am reminded of Cheech y Chong's bit from Los Cochinos entitled Chebornek.

It looks like dog poop but we can't prove it's dog poop so let's pick it up, examine it, feel it, smell it and taste it .... you know .... just to be sure it's really dog poop. Then we will walk away exceedingly proud of ourselves that we avoided a truly nasty interaction with the poop ... such as stepping in it.

Nineteen out of twenty is ninety-five percent. It sure looks like dog poop but .... I mean .... if you really wanna put it in your mouth to do the research, go right ahead. When you're finished it'll prolly turn out to be dog poop but you'll have a wonderful taste in your mouth.

Hey!! Good job of not stepping in it! High five!!!

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OK... first of all, when the people 'spoke' 2 weeks ago... They were electing a president... not National Healthcare.

You'd have to be a simpleton not to understand the difference.

Assuming that may be the case, let's look at the most recent Gallop poll on the PPACA (Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) - aka obamacare, which was taken 8 days after the election:

39% pro-PPACA
61% anti-PPACA

Here too the people have spoken, but this doesn't serve your 'cause', so I expect you will discount it. But it indicates that many people who may have voted for obama for other reasons, are still against the PPACA. So, let's distinguish here between the concept of National Healthcare and the PPACA.

One can be for National Healthcare and still against this legislation. Why ? This legislation does not provide National Healthcare... it only spreads (not lowers) the cost, in fact the cost of administering Healthcare will rise with this legislation.

A lot of the burden is being placed on the States, many of who's budgets are already over-burdened. In order to make up the slack created by the Feds opting out, States will likely have to either raise taxes, or cut existing services elsewhere. So much so that 23 of the 50 States have already decided to use an existing loophole and opt out. So much for National Healthcare.

A huge reason this legislation passed was because it promised no new taxes. The Democrats couldn't get a majority vote without this. But, if you bother to read through the 2700 pages of this law and it's 19,000 regulations , you would find a little thing socialistically euphemised as a “shared responsibility payment”... an 'unTax'. (have you read even a single page of it before forming your opinion ? - http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111h ... 590enr.pdf)

Contrary to the president's promise that: "...that those making under $250,000 would not have to pay a “penny” more in taxes...", this ‘untax,’ will be assessed to 75 percent of those making less than $120,000 - likely includes you.

Another issue many people are against is the coverage which will be extended to all non-elderly individuals who have lawfully resided in the country for five years - Aliens.

Do you think I could waltz into a hospital or clinic in Canada or the UK and receive treatment through their National Health ??

Have you considered the cost of administering and enforcing this Law..?? It is estimated that 3300 new Federal jobs will be required. Sounds OK right.. ?? Well, the average salary of the Insurance Co. personnel who currently handle this is: $41,000/yr. and many of these people will lose their jobs.

Have you ANY idea what the average Federal Employee salary is..??

Well, as of 2010 (last year records are available), it is... wait for it... $89,000/yr. and you may as well double this when you add-in Retirement and Healthcare benefits - OH YES... ALL Federal Employees will be excempt from this Law and will enjoy separate and better Healthcare.

Many aren't worried because their employer provides their HC coverage, but a recent poll of Business owners shows that 42% will drop healthcare for their employees altogether in 2014 when the PPACA comes into full effect. And, this rises to 57% for employers who have actually read the legislation.

IT IS BAD LEGISLATION !

You will see this in the coming years.

Will you be open-minded enough to change your opinion of the PPACA then..??

Somehow... I doubt it.

cheers!

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Hi Folks,
Although not specifically against the rules ----

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I'm gonna go ahead, take this one out of the oven, call it done.... and lock it up.

Cheers,
rob

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