i would like some more colour options when buying guitars. i have a sunburst guitar, i dotn really like sunburst, i wouldnt buy another one. i also have a black guitar, again, wouldnt buy another one, certainly not a 'standard' tele or strat.

ive said it before, but Fender Japan know how to keep things interesting. yes they do the standard range of guitars in the expected colours, but proportionally id say they p[roduce a lot more oddball colours for their guitars.

http://fenderjapan.co.jp/str_vc.html

also itd be nice to see different finishes, texture wise. other than highway 1's and my MIM standard Satin Strat, the only finishes ive seen are shiny. this satin finish i have is great to look at, and i think much, much more comfortable to play than a shiny guitar. especially if you play live, it doesnt get sticky as you get sweaty arms its exactly like teflon.





it even sort of changes shade as you look at it from different angles.

Actually I neither find my guitars to be boring or redundant. I also do not appreciate being called a sheep. This is my personal choice, obviously you have yours. Was it necessary to insult me? You do not know me to even begin to think i am a sheep. Perhaps you can't find what you are looking for, but I am quite content with my strats, and their colors. Believe me I am aboutthe furthest you will find a person from following a herd. Perhaps you should go visit the Ibanez forum since nothing at Fender suits your fancy.

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I think you've misinterpreted my post. The only part that was directed to you was the beginning. You posted a picture with the basic idea that the guitars pictured weren't drab, to which I agreed. Obviously, the colors being boring is opinion. The redundancy of the colors is more fact than it is opinion since redundant is defined as "characterized by similarity or repetition".

Imagine if Fender made peach, pink, and pea-green guitars for years, and then one day someone suggests, "Hey, how about mixing it up a bit and use white, red, and sunburst?". The people who stood steadfast with the idea of using peach, pink, and pea green just as they would had white, red, and sunburst been used for years - these are the sheep. Who are these people? I don't know anyone on the forum enough to know whether they genuinely like the current colors or if they like them simply because that's what's being used. That's something only each individual on the forum can reflect and answer themselves, but I would say this: I've never met a sheep that knew they were a sheep.

If you love Fender guitars, and would advocate for different colors, then I suppose the only logical conclusion would be to go to the Ibanez forum.

Paint it.

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Hi lurineener. Yikes: "boring, redundant, repetitious, sheep..." Might this be taking it just a touch too seriously?

After all, it's only fashion. And fashion is about doing almost the same as everybody else at a given moment, maybe with tiny personal variations to kid ourselves into thinking we're being individualistic - within the constraints of the offerings of the manufacturers of given objects: clothes, cars, guitars or whatever. Right now Fender seem to have decided that sober colours are to predominate in their range, though with plenty of exceptions for those as want something else.

Anyhow. If what's currently available is redundant and sheep-like to your taste, what colours would you like to see instead? What would the lurineener-caster look like, ideally? Name us some nice colours, please.

Cheers - C

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I don't think there's anything wrong with sunburst, blonde, or white. I don't. I think they can, and honestly should ALWAYS be there in the Vintage lines and pop up now in then in the Standard or Deluxe line. However, to say that in line like the American Vintage Series that those are the ONLY options is honestly a bunch of crap, and that's EXACTLY what bassists have been getting for YEARS in this line. Now the guitarists are getting it but they atleast still get black and they are complaining. I think they have every right to complain.

Why is the American Standard line getting something like 6 or 7 finish options? (most of which ARE rehashes anyhow) If the American Standard is the premiere bass line why does it HAVE to have those traditional colors at all? Why not offer burst one year, blonde or white the next and start getting more adventurous with the modern colors and finishes?

Also why is the more expensive Vintage line getting 2 or 3 of the same traditional colors? I get that they are the wheelhouse and the vintage spec but the custom colors existed and they should be represented. How about cutting back the number of the "standard" colors and increasing the number of custom colors? It's not like they aren't charging 1500 bucks a bass. You can't tell me that putting out one custom color on a bass model, and two or three on a guitar model each year is going to bankrupt this company. It's simply not true.

What has kept me from buying an AVS P bass is the fact that I simply don't want a Sunburst or White P bass. I don't. If I'm dropping that kind of money on a bass I want to be able to get it in Surf Green, Shell Pink, or some other cool 50's custom color. Why on earth would I want to pay 1500 dollars for a bass I can get for 800 out of Ensenada that is already "relic'd" and just drop a set of Duncan Raised A's and a tugbar and ashtray on?

The fact that you have less options the more you pay on factory production runs is ridiculous to me. If I go to buy a car and I buy the base trim level of a model I get LESS options. Not more.

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I think it's shameful that the new AVS '65 Strat isn't available in Lake Placid Blue, or the Jazzmaster in Sea Foam Green (white pearloid pickguard please). And Shoreline Gold sure looks good on a bass......

How about it, Fender?

Arjay

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Maybe the problem is nobody has really spoken up about it before. I'm all for a variety of colors if thats what suits your fancy, I myself do not like a really flashy guitar, so I buy what I like. I can see how for somebody that really wants some "POP" that this could be an issue. Squeeky wheel gets the grease. You would think at least if there was demand, which I would think there is, there would at least be some colorful FSR lines available.

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"Where would rock and roll be without feedback?"

I have a sunburst guitar. I have a black guitar. I have a white guitar, a Lake Placid Blue guitar, a Candy Apple Red guitar, a Torino Red guitar, a Daphne Blue guitar, and a butterscotch blonde guitar, along with 2 acoustics. Many Fender series only offer the colors that I already have. I like a variety of colors. I don't want to have 2 guitars that are the same color. Fender has made it very difficult to attain guitars that are in unique colors.

Maybe they just offer the colours they sell the most. It would be cool if there were some other options, though. I'd like to see them bring back more of the 50's and 60's colours on more models. British Race Car Green (or whatever it was called) and Burgundy Mist, to name a few. Heck, Shell Pink was kind of cool. I wouldn't mind orange, since that's not exactly too common, at least for Fender.

I don't think discussing it on a forum is taking it too seriously. I'd offer some lengthy explanation illustrating my point, but honestly, I'm tired of hearing my own internal voice about this, and then have the points I make completely missed, and then replying to the missed points.

As far as colors I'd like to see, I had mentioned in an earlier post I'd like a pumpkin orange, and an emerald green. There are a lot of colors I'd like to see (basically, anything except pastels and neons). I actually really like sunburst, but I'd like to see the color of the bursts changed up on occasion. I really like that green burst of the Harmony Rebel. Wouldn't it be neat to see Fiesta Red and that dark-colored red Fender uses, I think they call "wine", as a burst?

Maybe it's been posted before, but look at this:

http://fendercolorchart.webatu.com/colors/SLP.php

There are so many great Fender colors, but they hardly ever use them.


Cheers

David


// Edit: I see that the Fender Vintage Series comes in Sonic Blue, Candy Apple Red, Shoreline Gold and Lake Placid Blue. At least some of the models.

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I don't think Fender colors are drab they just reflect the tastes of the people who buy their guitars. As mentioned in an earlier post Fender keeps up wiith the sales of their product colors and ranks them accordingly. Lets look at the American Standard Stratocaster as an example. 2012 marks the first time in 4 years that Fender has offered a new color in this line "jade pearl metallic". It replaces 'blizzard pearl metallic" which was offered from 2008 thru 2011. I'm willing to bet your life savings that this color was on the tail end of their sales rankings and thus became the first casualty of the new American Standard colors. I'm also willing to bet that in 10 years this color will be highly sought after in the used market much like Graffitti yellow, Teal green, Ocean turqoise, and Chrome blue are today.

Experienced mature Stratocaster players tend to be conservative in nature (in the gear sense). Their guitar heroes played tobacco sunburst, olympic white, or black Stratocasters. These colors became "classic" colors. They also tend to be the people with the money to buy more than one guitar. Colors that seem drab and common in daylight take on a different mystique under stage lights. That young guitarist watching his idol on stage is not concerned so much with the color as he is what he is hearing and seeing. Personally I'm watching what the fingers are doing and I do not want my line of sight distracted by some neon color on the guitar. My favorite guitar finish has never been offered in a production Stratocaster and that is the Violin burst. It was offered for a couple of years in the custom shop, but it was way out of my price point at the time. If you think sunburst is dull you would go catatonic over this.


Guitar players in general are fortunate as far as finishes are concerned. You could be a pianist...

Shazzam! Now that's a finish!

Oh baby! Come sit on daddy's knee...

Cheers - C

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