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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:44 am
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:shock: just plain infuriating!!!!

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:10 am
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This is truly unfortunate and I agree it is infuriating. I am both saddened and angry at this news.

I do not believe radicals can ever be truly reformed and there are radicals everywhere, not just in Libya. They just don't think the same way we do and our logic is lost on them. I sometimes question the wisdom of attempting to "westernize" Islamic countries. It seems like an expensive and futile endeavor to this layman. I believe it would be easier and less expensive to concentrate more on containment than reformation.

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:18 am
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what amazes me is this was allegedly sparked by a short film made by an Israeli filmmaker
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... ainst.aspx

really? a movie!!! I just don't get how an offensive short film warrants a personal attack toward an American embassy on 9/11

I have a feeling the group responsible is scared to death and regrets their actions since no one will fess up...

also the fact Pastor Terry Jones is involved bothers me, his motives are questionable.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/world/gain ... ya/1251112

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:21 am
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Your tax dollars at work. Just what you'd expect from a movement led by a "largely secular, and peaceful" organization that we've helped fund. As far as trying to westernize these countries. As someone who served in the middle east, I agree. These people, ALL people, need to be left to figure out how to govern themselves. "progress". Sad. THIS is what democracy looks like. I feel horrible for the families of these people.

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:41 am
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Glad somebody brought it up - this has really got into me - and making me think thoughts I should not . I totally agree with you guys - seems to be the curse of the world - big cultural differences - religion . Neither I can see an end to this. We got to accept the world ,and the human race for what it is :cry: I am not an american , but this is so wrong , and I am very saddened . Had just given 9/11 some serious thoughts yesterday - and now THIS :twisted:
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This is truly unfortunate and I agree it is infuriating. I am both saddened and angry at this news.

I do not believe radicals can ever be truly reformed and there are radicals everywhere, not just in Libya. They just don't think the same way we do and our logic is lost on them. I sometimes question the wisdom of attempting to "westernize" Islamic countries. It seems like an expensive and futile endeavor to this layman. I believe it would be easier and less expensive to concentrate more on containment than reformation.

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what amazes me is this was allegedly sparked by a short film made by an Israeli filmmaker
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... ainst.aspx

really? a movie!!! I just don't get how an offensive short film warrants a personal attack toward an American embassy on 9/11

I have a feeling the group responsible is scared to death and regrets their actions since no one will fess up...

also the fact Pastor Terry Jones is involved bothers me, his motives are questionable.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/world/gain ... ya/1251112

+1 - Unbelievable madness
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:44 am
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What a world we live in at times..My prayers and heart felt thoughts are with his family and friends

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:08 am
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I am starting to think the people provoking this situation should be held responsible.
It is clear this is a group of people you must tread lightly around. but the people causing all this trouble are thousands of miles away simply not caring one bit about the consequences.
I am sure the creator of this film would never have even thought about making it if had he lived in a Muslim country. why? because he knows it will piss them off.
same goes for that asshat Terry Jones, he would never hold a public Quran burning if the people he was insulting were present.

after reading this i am not sure what to think about the film origins,
http://www.publici.com/content/anti-mus ... 93-it-hoax
it wouldn't surprise me if Terry Jones was behind it to begin with :?

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:14 am
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I am starting to think the people provoking this situation should be held responsible.
It is clear this is a group of people you must tread lightly around. but the people causing all this trouble are thousands of miles away simply not caring one bit about the consequences.
I am sure the creator of this film would never have even thought about making it if had he lived in a Muslim country. why? because he knows it will piss them off.
same goes for that asshat Terry Jones, he would never hold a public Quran burning if the people he was insulting were present.

after reading this i am not sure what to think about the film origins,
http://www.publici.com/content/anti-mus ... 93-it-hoax
it wouldn't surprise me if Terry Jones was behind it to begin with :?



Really? You think a film maker should be held responsible because a bunch of whackjobs are killing people because they don't like their art? Wow. I don't know what to say about that. This is just an excuse to these types of people. (and they exist everywhere with all sorts of crazy notions and justifications for the trespasses they make against other people) Not holding the people responsible who commit these crimes, and mitigating the blame onto people who simply are expressing themselves is the way of madness. It tramples individual rights, and excuses violent behavior. It's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt.

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:30 am
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somebizarredude wrote:
I am starting to think the people provoking this situation should be held responsible.
It is clear this is a group of people you must tread lightly around. but the people causing all this trouble are thousands of miles away simply not caring one bit about the consequences.
I am sure the creator of this film would never have even thought about making it if had he lived in a Muslim country. why? because he knows it will piss them off.
same goes for that asshat Terry Jones, he would never hold a public Quran burning if the people he was insulting were present.

after reading this i am not sure what to think about the film origins,
http://www.publici.com/content/anti-mus ... 93-it-hoax
it wouldn't surprise me if Terry Jones was behind it to begin with :?



Really? You think a film maker should be held responsible because a bunch of whackjobs are killing people because they don't like their art? Wow. I don't know what to say about that. This is just an excuse to these types of people. (and they exist everywhere with all sorts of crazy notions and justifications for the trespasses they make against other people) Not holding the people responsible who commit these crimes, and mitigating the blame onto people who simply are expressing themselves is the way of madness. It tramples individual rights, and excuses violent behavior. It's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt.


I see what your saying but these guys are asking for trouble while hiding behind a wall.
I am not saying directly punish them, but call them out on it.
I am all for free speech, but sometimes its simply uncalled for. that's all i am trying to say. they are simply provoking a group of people to draw a reaction and cause trouble.
but apparently the creator doesn't really exist anyways :lol:
this is just the start of something far worse.

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:35 am
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somebizarredude wrote:
TheKingofPain wrote:
somebizarredude wrote:
I am starting to think the people provoking this situation should be held responsible.
It is clear this is a group of people you must tread lightly around. but the people causing all this trouble are thousands of miles away simply not caring one bit about the consequences.
I am sure the creator of this film would never have even thought about making it if had he lived in a Muslim country. why? because he knows it will piss them off.
same goes for that asshat Terry Jones, he would never hold a public Quran burning if the people he was insulting were present.

after reading this i am not sure what to think about the film origins,
http://www.publici.com/content/anti-mus ... 93-it-hoax
it wouldn't surprise me if Terry Jones was behind it to begin with :?



Really? You think a film maker should be held responsible because a bunch of whackjobs are killing people because they don't like their art? Wow. I don't know what to say about that. This is just an excuse to these types of people. (and they exist everywhere with all sorts of crazy notions and justifications for the trespasses they make against other people) Not holding the people responsible who commit these crimes, and mitigating the blame onto people who simply are expressing themselves is the way of madness. It tramples individual rights, and excuses violent behavior. It's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt.


I see what your saying but these guys are asking for trouble while hiding behind a wall.
I am not saying directly punish them, but call them out on it.
I am all for free speech, but sometimes its simply uncalled for. that's all i am trying to say. they are simply provoking a group of people to draw a reaction and cause trouble.
but apparently the creator doesn't really exist anyways :lol:
this is just the start of something far worse.



This is all orchestrated. Brought to you by the same people who brought you WWI and II. Sad. The worst part is all of it. Islam, Terrorism, Oil, they are all red herrings. (well Oil to a lesser degree as it's a commodity) Do you know what two things Libya and Iraq had in common besides being run by madmen? Their own gold reserve and money based upon it. Where'd all that gold go? Bet the World Bank is shipping a nice fat boatload of fiat currency to them as we speak. They're in the system now. Just like the rest of us. Slavery sold as freedom. Sick.

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:40 am
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This is all orchestrated. Brought to you by the same people who brought you WWI and II. Sad. The worst part is all of it. Islam, Terrorism, Oil, they are all red herrings. (well Oil to a lesser degree as it's a commodity) Do you know what two things Libya and Iraq had in common besides being run by madmen? Their own gold reserve and money based upon it. Where'd all that gold go? Bet the World Bank is shipping a nice fat boatload of fiat currency to them as we speak. They're in the system now. Just like the rest of us. Slavery sold as freedom. Sick.


that's what I was getting at, there is something else behind this for the creator to be so elusive. It looks like a clear attempt to cause unrest in the middle east. like throwing gasoline on a fire. but until i cool down a little i should probably keep responses short. i sometimes come across as an idiot :lol: ( i am not a word smith)
this just hit to close to home for me.

re reading the post about blaming the creators, it didn't come across quite like i had hoped :roll:

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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:31 pm
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Given the Barney-esque mentality of the mutually-fellating clowns who now occupy the White House, the State Department, and the main-stream media, none of this is in any way shocking to me.

I've seen this movie before......in 1979.

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Given the Barney-esque mentality of the mutually-fellating clowns who now occupy the White House, the State Department, and the main-stream media, none of this is in any way shocking to me.

I've seen this movie before......in 1979.

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This had nothing to do with this movie it was a planned attack on 9/11.


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It's another false-flag terror operation meant to inflame the passions of the American people to trick us into more corrupt wars and oppression.

Turn off your TV's -- ignore the propaganda. The more you feed into the propaganda, the more propaganda you will get.

Make death and destruction obsolete by making it not profitable -- if you don't watch the "news"/propaganda, it will become profitless and go away.

Grow food, make things, build a strong community where you live -- but DO NOT watch propaganda, period, if you want it to go away.

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