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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:36 am
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First of all this is a public forum only in the sense that the public can read it. It is private in that only those who are permitted can post here. Topps permission was revoked. Mine can be revoked and so can anyones.

There is a rule against posting a lot to get your post count up. He did post a lot in many forums.

At one time I believe he was posting in here with two IDs one of which was Swingville. I believe thats a broken rule.

He was thin skinned and admitted he needed to let things go. That didn't last long.

So with broken rules, multiple warnings and complaints against him with a poor history following him I'm surprised he wasn't banned earlier. I think he was given a long enough rope and he ended up hanging himself with it. Some dudes just don't get it when it comes to public discussion and respectable debate. You can spew opinion sure enough but facts are whats needed in many cases and he would state his opinion as fact and was wrong all too often. When you stick your hands in an amp you better have you facts straight or that opinion you go by may be the last thing you read. Some things need to be taken seriously. Throwing opinions around about the color of a Strat body or who plays the best version of "Little Wing" is one thing. Probing around inside a live amp is quite another thing.

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:57 am
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Grogon, Trying to save the world one $@!&#*% at a time. Sorry had to say it :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:04 am
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tbazzone wrote:
Grogon, Trying to save the world one $@!&#*% at a time. Sorry had to say it :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:05 am
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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:52 pm
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Grogon, Trying to save the world one $@!&#*% at a time. Sorry had to say it :lol:


:lol: I think he wants Topptwat's mantle as forum Gooron..... :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:08 pm
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ozrv wrote:
:lol: I think he wants Topptwat's mantle as forum Gooron..... :wink:

There you go; personal attacks, just the kinda thing that it was claimed Toppscore did and he was railroaded out the door.

At the end of the day when the silly attacks start you know their argument is weak.

Bottom line is i know and most reasonable people on the forum know there was no real reason the guy had to get banned. Apart from the sensitive members complaining that is.

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:16 pm
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Gorgon wrote:
ozrv wrote:
:lol: I think he wants Topptwat's mantle as forum Gooron..... :wink:

There you go; personal attacks, just the kinda thing that it was claimed Toppscore did and he was railroaded out the door.

At the end of the day when the silly attacks start you know their argument is weak.

Bottom line is i know and most reasonable people on the forum know there was no real reason the guy had to get banned. Apart from the sensitive members complaining that is.


Toppscore is gone. Deal with it and move on like everyone else.

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:39 am
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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:43 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
Toppscore is gone. Deal with it and move on like everyone else.

Is he? how do you know? maybe he's back under another name or will come back under another name. What do you do then ban him again?

I don't believe in forum bans. People should be able to argue and fight without getting reported and ganged up on to get banned.

Those things are part and parcel of net forums everywhere. Everyone argues and debates and it gets personal and insults fly. So what? big deal, it's the net, it's not personal.

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:51 pm
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Gorgon wrote:

I don't believe in forum bans. People should be able to argue and fight without getting reported and ganged up on to get banned.

Those things are part and parcel of net forums everywhere. Everyone argues and debates and it gets personal and insults fly. So what? big deal, it's the net, it's not personal.



Wrong attitude!

We are here to have fun and to share information and experiences.
Well, at least I am!

I don't want to read filthy arguments and personal insults and I'm certainly not here to get insulted during my hard earned spare time.

Everybody learns at school how to debate and discuss in an argumentative and polite way.

Members who are not able to or not willing to keep a certain etiquette in a community with real persons must take consequences.

Insults, no matter whether shouted in your face or posted inkognito via the web ARE personal and no friendly member in whatever online community has to take this.

It's all a matter of general politeness and respect.

Misunderstandings can happen, especially in an international multilingual forum like this one, where many members are not native English speaking people but insults, flaming, intimidating and making bad jokes about other members in the same community is way below of what I (and probably the majority in this forum) expect from a forum like this.

Please think again about what you just wrote here. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:16 pm
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Smokin' Frets wrote:
Wrong attitude!

We are here to have fun and to share information and experiences.
Well, at least I am!

I don't want to read filthy arguments and personal insults and I'm certainly not here to get insulted during my hard earned spare time.

Eh in your opinion it's the wrong attitude you should have said. Myself on the other hand i see nothing wrong in some debating arguing and general to and fro because that's life. if you want it picture postcard perfect then join a forum about flower arranging or knitting. Even there you might get an argument.

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Insults, no matter whether shouted in your face or posted inkognito via the web ARE personal and no friendly member in whatever online community has to take this.

Don't be so naive and silly and overly serious. It can't be a personal insult over the internet when you don't even know the person from adam, nor them you. Get over yourself grow a pair and learn to take the rough with the smooth. Honestly whining away like a wee girl about some supposed insult over the net.

If you don't like the person ignore them, that's all it takes. You choose whether you answer a post they've written you know. There's a free choice, no one's forcing your arm up your back and telling you that you have to reply.

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Misunderstandings can happen, especially in an international multilingual forum like this one, where many members are not native English speaking people but insults, flaming, intimidating and making bad jokes about other members in the same community is way below of what I (and probably the majority in this forum) expect from a forum like this.

Eh much like the one below from one of the same type of people that were undoubtedly complaining about Toppscore.

See i could take offence, but i won't because i see the forum as it is; an internet forum where real people are involved, not angels.

ozrv wrote:
:lol: I think he wants Topptwat's mantle as forum Gooron..... :wink:



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Please think again about what you just wrote here. :roll:

Eh ditto.

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:29 pm
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Smokin' Frets wrote:
Gorgon wrote:

I don't believe in forum bans. People should be able to argue and fight without getting reported and ganged up on to get banned.

Those things are part and parcel of net forums everywhere. Everyone argues and debates and it gets personal and insults fly. So what? big deal, it's the net, it's not personal.



Wrong attitude!

We are here to have fun and to share information and experiences.
Well, at least I am!

I don't want to read filthy arguments and personal insults and I'm certainly not here to get insulted during my hard earned spare time.

Everybody learns at school how to debate and discuss in an argumentative and polite way.

Members who are not able to or not willing to keep a certain etiquette in a community with real persons must take consequences.

Insults, no matter whether shouted in your face or posted inkognito via the web ARE personal and no friendly member in whatever online community has to take this.

It's all a matter of general politeness and respect.

Misunderstandings can happen, especially in an international multilingual forum like this one, where many members are not native English speaking people but insults, flaming, intimidating and making bad jokes about other members in the same community is way below of what I (and probably the majority in this forum) expect from a forum like this.

Please think again about what you just wrote here. :roll:

Well articulated and reflects my on-going sentiments exactly. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:54 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
Smokin' Frets wrote:
Gorgon wrote:

I don't believe in forum bans. People should be able to argue and fight without getting reported and ganged up on to get banned.

Those things are part and parcel of net forums everywhere. Everyone argues and debates and it gets personal and insults fly. So what? big deal, it's the net, it's not personal.



Wrong attitude!

We are here to have fun and to share information and experiences.
Well, at least I am!

I don't want to read filthy arguments and personal insults and I'm certainly not here to get insulted during my hard earned spare time.

Everybody learns at school how to debate and discuss in an argumentative and polite way.

Members who are not able to or not willing to keep a certain etiquette in a community with real persons must take consequences.

Insults, no matter whether shouted in your face or posted inkognito via the web ARE personal and no friendly member in whatever online community has to take this.

It's all a matter of general politeness and respect.

Misunderstandings can happen, especially in an international multilingual forum like this one, where many members are not native English speaking people but insults, flaming, intimidating and making bad jokes about other members in the same community is way below of what I (and probably the majority in this forum) expect from a forum like this.

Please think again about what you just wrote here. :roll:

Well articulated and reflects my on-going sentiments exactly. :wink:


+1 Well said! It's not an old or young guy thing it's a respect thing. I'm sure they have sites dedicated to insulting each other, maybe something like www.aholes.com :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:03 pm
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63supro wrote:

+1 Well said! It's not an old or young guy thing it's a respect thing. I'm sure they have sites dedicated to insulting each other, maybe something like http://www.aholes.com :lol:


they do this is it. here http://acapella.harmony-central.com/ :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Toppscore has been banned
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:08 pm
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63supro wrote:
+1 Well said! It's not an old or young guy thing it's a respect thing. I'm sure they have sites dedicated to insulting each other, maybe something like http://www.aholes.com :lol:

Nothing to do with insults. if it was solely to do with that plenty of people would have been booted off of here. it was solely because certain members here took a dislike to Toppscore from other forums/places and perversely enjoyed winding him up on here. Then when he gave as good as he got he was the bad guy.

Arjay for instance: he was the one who started the demeaning insults in the thread quoted further back. Toppscore never said anything to start it.

There we have it. Facts are facts.

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