The heck you say..My guitars are worth bezillions!

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"Music is What Feelings Sound like"

Ha! I like your style, Mona.

Cheers - C

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And now, in a nice circular way, we've once more made our way from guitars to guns.

Gotta love it.

How about #4 shells for my Remington 20 gauge pumps?

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Rockin' since 1963

Ludwig Von Mises couldn't have said it better.

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Guns don't shoot people.
People who have guns shoot people.

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Just think of how awesome a guitar player you could have been by now if you had only spent the last 10 years practicing instead of obsessing over pickups and roasted maple necks.

We should outlaw people...

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Well, the pro gun people love to say:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
They love to say it in that particular way because they hope to take the blame off guns but it actually does more than that. It identifies that it's people with guns that are killing people. So the gun owners didn't do a damned thing to help their own cause in the long run by coining that phrase. All they did was draw even more attention to the fact that people are being killed with guns. That's why I word it that way because it's the only true way of looking at it.

Guns don't shoot people.
People who have guns shoot people.

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classic cars are a guaranteed investment, as long as they're in decent nick.

Cars kill people!

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As one of those "gun people" you are missing the argument's point. Which isn't really surprising. The fact is that people are murdered every day with all sorts of objects. Knives, cars, frying pans, swords, medication, hunks of wood, rocks, chainsaws, axes, ect. To say that we should outlaw frying pans because people get intentionally (and they do lol), or even accidentally killed by them is a ridiculous statement. It's no less ridiculous to make that argument for gun control.

You are vilifying an object, not the people doing it. People aren't going to stop getting killed because you outlaw guns. That's a fact backed up by years of scared pathetic people who run to the government to hide behind it's skirt only to leave people unable to defend themselves against criminals. Who, by definition, don't give a damn what laws you pass. Or worse, by the criminals in their own government.

Wake up. People will get murdered. Every. Damn. Day. No matter what you outlaw.The fact that you are trying to insinuate that by taking away guns from people who would commit murders will stop them from committing murder is ridiculous and shows you have no grasp of logic or critical thinking skills. The gun doesn't initiate the murder. The person does. So until you are ready to outlaw people. You'll continue to fail to find your utopia, and simply make people easier targets for those who don't follow the laws enacted by your failed policies and ideology.

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Thanks!

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King, I have only quoted part of your lengthy post because quite frankly most of it had absolutely nothing to do with me or my post.


Agreed.


Whoa. Stop right there. Nobody said anything about outlawing people here except you. You've actually done it twice now; both times I assumed you meant to attempt to put those words in my mouth and failed to do so. You are the one who does not have any grasp. How do you expect to do well in a debate if you mistakenly assume what your opponent's argument is and jump all over the wrong argument? All you do is make a fool of yourself and lose credibility. You just assumed. You jumped without looking. I made no insinuation. You made an inferrence. There's a difference and the fault is yours, not mine.

My only intention was to illuminate the misleading nature of the saying; guns don't kill people; people kill people. I assumed we all understood that the statement, both the original and my modified version were referring to gun related deaths. I assumed we all knew it would be stupid to talk about guns in a discussion about knife related deaths. I guess I was wrong on that count. My bad.

Here is my statement again:
Guns don't shoot people.
People who have guns shoot people.

I assume you are able to figure out that a person who is not in possession of a gun is unable to shoot anyone with a gun ... because he doesn't have one. So then you can agree that technically, only people who actually have a gun can use a gun to kill someone. Please for the love of all that is true, tell me where there is a flaw in the logic of my statement above. Tell me WITHOUT making assumptions about what I am implying because I am not implying anything. I simply reworded it into something that makes sense without allowing any clouding of the issue. People can make up their own minds on issues but only if they understand them properly. The gun debate has nothing to do with frying pan related deaths. I'm sorry. The gun debate is about guns. It only illuminates ignorance to point to knives when discussing guns. The issue is not murder. The issue is gun murders.

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Here we go again .....

...why does this keep happening....



Here is a picture of a laughing horse....

It happens because we're all out of things to say about guitars. All of the rosewood/maple, tonewood, humbucker/single coil, cheap/expensive debates have already been hammered to death a zillion times. It happens because USA is in an election year and political hot topics are on people's minds. It happens because the economy is not what it was and as a result people are thinking about serious matters more often than they did when they were feeling flush.

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I totally get that but we know how this goes, you won't change someones mind and it'll descend into a mudslinging contest where everyone just gets pissed at each other and fights for 10 pages, then we get topics on how the board sucks, rinse and repeat.