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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:23 am
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Procreation is entirely possible without marriage.
Marriage is entirely possible without procreation.

No.

Then, historically, what is marriage? Why was it instituted?



Why is anything instituted? So it can be controlled and made money off of by people who produce nothing.

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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:23 pm
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TheKingofPain wrote:
mhowell wrote:
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Procreation is entirely possible without marriage.
Marriage is entirely possible without procreation.

No.

Then, historically, what is marriage? Why was it instituted?



Why is anything instituted? So it can be controlled and made money off of by people who produce nothing.


You have hit the nail on the head. Religion was created to control the masses and marriage is one of those controls. When the definition changes by law instead of religion then control moves from the church to the government.

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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:38 pm
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Arc-n-spark wrote:
TheKingofPain wrote:
mhowell wrote:
Then, historically, what is marriage? Why was it instituted?



Why is anything instituted? So it can be controlled and made money off of by people who produce nothing.


You have hit the nail on the head. Religion was created to control the masses and marriage is one of those controls. When the definition changes by law instead of religion then control moves from the church to the government.


Yep. Just different forms of government. One scares you with the afterlife, the other sticks a gun in your face. The question everyone should have been asking is ..."Why the hell do I have to get permission from anyone to marry?" all along! Sad.

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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:59 pm
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Um, I think you'll find marriage was originally to keep track of bloodlines. That is, to make it less likely (but not impossible) that you breed with your close relatives.


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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:30 pm
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Does marriage establish a family?

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How did this end up here?

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How did this end up here?



I blame ICP...

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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
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Oh, man ...
You know where he's going with this, right?

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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:26 pm
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My comment was removed. :twisted:

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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
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everything else be damned, love is love. it upsets me that religion has any kind of control over government, isnt there supposed to be a seperation of church and state? yeah , right. this country was built by the church. i have my own beliefs, which are mostly christian, but i claim no church as my official set of beliefs. i haven't found one that gets the things i get. maybe there isn't one, and i'm fine with that. i've made my own peace with the world, if that's not good enough in the end, well, man, i tried. sorry, big guy. guess i blew it.
anyways, as far as marriage goes if i were king for a day i'd legalize all marriage (as long as it's human to human and not imbreeding) and then you'd have a whole uprising of barefoot mountain people (hey, i'm related to some of those people, i'm allowed to talk about them) who would be offended because they really love their sister/cousin/father/etc. i'm all for !@$ marriage, let it be man let it be.
i'd also legalize pot, maybe even make it mandatory like bill hicks said- if i were king for a day.
i think i might hate myself for throwing myself into this thread. oh well.
does marriage make a family? no, i've got plenty of friends that have lived together for decades and never exchanged vows , they're very happy and have kids, grandkids, etc. no problems. maybe they're dirty hippies, you say, but they're happy hippies.
i generally dislike all kinds of people, but i respect their right to do whatever they want. i mean... you know, if i were on the same level as these guys who think !@$ marriage will end the world, i might start saying that idiot suburban white kids that want to be eminem and have terribly loud systems in their POS buicks shouldn't be allowed to get married. of course i don't think most of them get married, so whatever....
this will probably get deleted, i'm fine with that. why are we even talking about this on the fender forums? lets just jam, dude.
FREE MUMIA!
there, i said it.

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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:25 am
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mhowell wrote:
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Procreation is entirely possible without marriage.
Marriage is entirely possible without procreation.

No.

Then, historically, what is marriage? Why was it instituted?

It's date's back before Christianity. Women were consitered (spelling?) proberty and marrige was the act of a man taking over the responsibility from the father of the bride and the broom even got paid for it in form of livestock's, land or somekind of currency.

I don't understand why Christians believe that they have the copyright on the term marriage. There are somekind of forms of marriage in most if not all religous cultures around the world, the Bible simple has the Christian version of it.

I am not from America but I noticed that in a America that a couple in a commited relationship don't have the same rights as a married couple, for example hospital visits. There have been examples that people have been denied the right to sit next to their spouses deathbeds because they are not married and therefore not family, so I understand why gays are fighting for the right to marry or at least getting the same rights as a married couple. I think it just sick that people can't be there for their loved ones at their last moment because they are not "family" in a legal sense.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/how-hospitals-treat-same-sex-couples/
And have you guys noticed that the word g.a.y is censored on this forum? Just saying that I don't think that it is a slur.

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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:30 am
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And have you guys noticed that the word g.a.y is censored on this forum? Just saying that I don't think that it is a slur.

Yeah why is G.A.Y considered a bad word on the fender website? That is putting the word alongside all the swear words that are bleeped out.

That is plainly ridiculous.

The word G.A.Y is not offensive.

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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
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Can I marry one or all of my Strats?? Is that so wrong!!!


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Post subject: Re: You Tube has gone "Liberal".
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:14 am
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