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How many times harder was Nirvana than any current "screamo" garbage?
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Post subject: Re: Percentages
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:55 am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0f1gfVdXZY&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxizB02d0gE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzT8khyTr3o&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzjFbMKYmFw&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ5FUq92bCU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Shl6s6beo&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXTu6UY1A6A&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLko4TmJkUQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbTWFj2SMX8

Only 2 are death metal, none are screamo, none are childish, and all are "harder"/heavier/better than Nirvana ever even could have been. Kurt could write a nice pop rock song, but aside from that his work was basically just punk being packaged for a mass market.

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:08 am
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I hate to say it, being a Nirvana fan, myself, but neither are very hard to play, and Nirvana would probably be the easier of the 2 to the average player.

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:53 am
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Nirvana is easier to play, but all of them are hard to listen to ...

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:41 pm
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What I find humorous in this thread is how completely ignorant you are. We get it, Nirvana is your favourite band, that does not mean everyone feels that way. As a matter of fact, it's childish fanboys such as yourself that have ruined Nirvana for me. 
Floyd gave you a list of youtube videos to reference if you want to see "heavier" bands, but you felt the need to ignore the facts, and simply laugh at them. The reality is that there are THOUSANDS of bands that are "harder" then Nirvana. 

Let's try to grow up, and open our eyes a little, shall we? I strongly suggest you give other bands a chance, you might actually like them. 


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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:00 pm
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I'm a huge Nirvana fan, but what does harder have to do with anything? Harder in terms of how hard it is to play, or harder in terms of how heavy their sound was, both miss the essence of Nirvana, and is just superficial nothing.

It's much like the mentality so prevalent amongst guitar players, and musicians in general that the difficulty of guitar work, or a drum part, or whatever, somehow is related to how "good" it is. You know what I mean?

To me, Cobain was a better guitarist than any virtuoso.

"How can you possibly say such a thing?"

Because Cobain used the guitar with an approach that was closer to creating art as opposed to treating musicianship like it's a sport. He who can wiggle his fingers the best wins. It's empty nonsense.

I watch a ton of guitar and pedal demos on YouTube. There are, basically, three guitarists - the metal/shredder guy, the bluesman, and the classic rock guy. Millions of guitarists in the world, and such a limited spectrum of creativity.

Imagine a world full of painters, but nearly all of them only use primary colors, and they stick to the same basic geometric patterns, and they determined how good another painter is by how fast he could paint, how difficult it is to paint that fast, or how well he used the color blue because that's a soulful color, not realizing that soul can come in the form of other colors, and that soul isn't mutually exclusive to being creative enough to use a different color.

Taking a guitar and playing it through a solid-state bass amp isn't "wrong". It's a different sound. It's a different color.

Taking a keyboard and playing it through a vocal processing unit isn't "wrong". It's unorthodox. It's a different color.

When I hear someone say, "I'm looking for a good classic sound", I hear, "I'm looking for a generic sound that has been played by a million other people before me, and a million people currently playing with that sound". So many musicians, and such a profound lack of desire to stray from the beaten path, and even more disheartening are the musicians who can't even comprehend that a different path can be taken. This was the 1980's, and it's back. The current state of music, and the mentality driving it is so frighteningly similar to the mid-to-late 80's.

This is why Nirvana had the impact that it had. Nirvana was a great band, and Cobain was a phenomenal songwriter, but what really made them explode the way they did was because of the stale, empty creative-complacency of 80's culture.

I'm not sure how relevant this rant is to this thread at this point, but the sentiment remains.


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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:14 am
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The Word and the Breath wrote:
Floyd_The_Barber V2 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0f1gfVdXZY&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxizB02d0gE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzT8khyTr3o&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzjFbMKYmFw&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ5FUq92bCU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Shl6s6beo&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXTu6UY1A6A&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLko4TmJkUQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbTWFj2SMX8

Only 2 are death metal, none are screamo, none are childish, and all are "harder"/heavier/better than Nirvana ever even could have been. Kurt could write a nice pop rock song, but aside from that his work was basically just punk being packaged for a mass market.


:lol:

I spent 15 minutes trying to think of good tracks to recommend and you respond by being an absolute dickwagon. Good for you big guy. Never expand your tastes, who cares what different genres have to offer, right?

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Post subject: Re: Percentages
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:52 pm
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lurineener wrote:
It's much like the mentality so prevalent amongst guitar players, and musicians in general that the difficulty of guitar work, or a drum part, or whatever, somehow is related to how "good" it is. You know what I mean?

To me, Cobain was a better guitarist than any virtuoso.


Amen to that! Most fans don't really care how hard a song is to play. They only care about how good it sounds.

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