Being self righteous and looking down on others less well off than yourself is disgusting.

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I really don't see where Clapton came from anything but a middle class upbringing.
Is a Ferrari ostentatious, perhaps to some, however to others it isn't.
You'd have a viable argument except Clapton has been involved in charity and rehab sponsorship for many years, it's not as if he doesn't have his own life's experience to sing about a cloudy day.

As for the criteria of playing the Blues can only be done by someone who has lived thru misery...
That is just nonsense since that pretty much takes out 95% of the current musicians.
Let's be realistic here, Blues is today a musical form and I would guess some of the old timers
( the handful that is left ) would not wish their hard times on future generations..

Seriously this is just becoming absurd, Yes Clapton is wealthy, but is it really the wonderful myth that is so often portrayed....I for one cherish my privacy and would not like to be in a fishbowl with the Paparazzi awaiting your every step..

I don't see where Clapton is rubbing it in to people, so he ordered a custom Ferrari...
Well were I to be that liquid, you can bet I would be ordering a Ferrari if not a Mclaren....
What next, I bought a 56 NOS Custom Shop so that brands me as insensitive...???

Understand that we do live in a capitalist system, a Utopia where everyone is taken care of is just never going to happen, it runs contradictory to human nature, however I am concerned about the less fortunate but, even though economic times have made more challenges, I certainly am not vacationing 3 days a week, my work schedule is pretty much 6 to 7 days a week and that has enabled me to make it by...able to keep my car, my house, etc...

But there is a demand out there for Clapton's music, so since you are in the minority of dissent I would add the Demand and Supply side of the equation wins out...

Anyway it's time to go for a workout.....

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I guess growing up in the 50s and 60s I could have the blues about as much as anybody, but I don't. If a person makes it good and gives to the poor, they can do what they want with the rest. My family and extended family were born poor, but they all went to college and most have masters degrees. Of course, this was due to scholarships and government loans and Pell Grants. I didn't quite make it, being a coniseur of love. But I was a builder of major industry in mid-America. My brother always liked sports cars. I'm so proud of him. And Clapton.

The American way!

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But don't get the wrong idea, hou-tex. The government helped us to get ahead.

I don't see how you read that into his post.

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This whole discussion is getting pretty stupid.
You don't have to have the Blues to play the Blues. But everyone at one time or another gets the Blues. Things just happen in your life. It doesn't matter where you're from, your religion, or the color of your skin. There's happy blues, sad blues, broke Blues, Delta Blues, Texas Blues, ChicagoBlues, East Coast Blues, West Coast Blues, Blues are played all over Europe and the Middle East too.

The original question was
"Is Clapton Too Good For His Own Good (no flame war)?"
The short answer is no. Nobody asked if anyone has the right to play the blues, what kind of cars he collects or anything else. Nobody asked for personal insults either. It's just a simple question with a very simple answer.

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I wouldn't categorize this discussion/debate as stupid. Similar to any discussion there are tangential points which may steer the discussion away from the core, but they are valid and part of the discussion.
I've steered away from the actual question " Clapton too good for his own Good " simply on the basis that it is condescending and really doesn't address the real questions which fortunately have been voiced and discussed here and continue to do so.

There has been some personal attack nonsense but that is up to us to steer the discussion back on track.

I'm dissappointed that in many of these discussions, there is resistance to opposing points of views strictly on the basis that it may force one to reassess their position..... Or it upsets the apple cart...

I've introduced a few points which I believe to be relevant to this discussion, they are most definitely open for rebuttal. My argument in this discussion is that Blues ( as a General Term ) is very much a musical evolution thru the centuries, not just the most recent decades....
I would even venture to another continent and an ancient composer ( 800 years ago ) philosopher, writer, polymath....Hildegard Von Bingen (1098-1179 )
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJEfyZSvg5c
the composition " Canticles of Ecstasy " is a good introduction to this music.
Her music is very similar to the Blues, melodies that are quite similar expressing emotional context. Granted it is religious in nature but so is the Blues which is based on religion.

What possible connection could this have with Clapton... Listening to Clapton's lead work in a slow Blues should at the very least reveal similarities in melodic structure, at which point the question then becomes wether music is a continually evolving medium, drawn from multiple influences and therefore neither static or really a creation of only one particular time and place/setting....

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Because he has a condescending attitude towards poorer people and has publicly stated in print here that poor people are all poor because they're lazy and don't want to work to get ahead. All from his own post. A disgraceful horrible attitude to display. No not all poor people are lazy and don't want to work. Many people work but work in the lowest paid jobs and so even though they work they're still caught in a poverty trap.

Not to mention pensioners and older people who've worked humdrum jobs all their days and just scraped by only to discover that they don't have enough money to heat the house and eat. So they have to choose one over the other.

So that's why i read that into his post. Read the posts and digest what he said before replying.


^^^ There we have it No mention of people who've worked all their days but still not been rewarded for it.

In short Hou-Tex is a complete fool in demonising a whole group of people by saying they're poor and they're poor because they're lazy.

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George Van Eps.

This thread is so far off track it's hilarious.
It's almost as bad as a John Mayer thread.
The question was a simple one. I don't know if the OP meant for this to happen, doesn't seem like it even though Troll was tossed around a little bit.

That last post sews up my assumptions.

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Ha! I figured it out! You're all welcome, it was really no big deal. there's a Trans-Atlantic language barrier thing working here. Either that or;

Ha! I figured it out! You're all welcome, it was really no big deal. there's a Trans-Atlantic language barrier thing working here. Either that or;

No, the post was a good one and i put up the facts as they were stated. Basically we have a person who is so deluded and living in a world where all poor people are poor because they're lazy!!! At a time like this when people are losing their jobs, having houses repossessed, families splitting up over it all etc. etc.

What Hou-Tex should do if he has a modicum of decency in him is apologise for that statement.

I repeat it again: there are tons of people who are working and have worked for years who are living in poverty and hand to mouth. According to our friend they're all doing that and are in those circumstances because they're lazy.

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The threads not about poor people, but I think the Ferrari comments actually started it.

oxfan my friend glad to see you chime in on this one

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