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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:12 am
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Honestly I first started on maple and my latest is rosewood and it is not something that has even crossed my mind ever. I have no issue seeing the strings on either to be honest.


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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:16 am
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This is NOT a discussion about whether there is a tone difference between rosewood and maple. I know that topic has been argued ad nauseum in other threads. No, this thread is about PLAYABILITY AS AFFECTED BY APPEARANCE, and it probably applies more to beginners or anyone who sucks like me and has to LOOK AT THE STRINGS when playing.

Does anyone prefer rosewood because the silver strings contrast with it better and thus are easier to see when playing than a light maple neck?

I'm starting to reach that conclusion. I have 4 guitars with a rosewood fingerboard and one strat with a maple neck, and after playing the rosewood, if I switch to my maple neck I find that looking at the neck is like staring at the sun and the strings are a little bit camoflauged and I have trouble seeing the strings! Thus I'm starting to feel that I can play a little bit better with a rosewood fingerboard that lets me see the strings better.

Does anyone else feel this way? I might need glasses.


Actually, I've never heard your postulation before. In all seriousness and with all due respect, you very well may need glasses.

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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:19 am
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Actually, I've never heard your postulation before. In all seriousness and with all due respect, you very well may need glasses.


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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:49 am
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Violin Parent wrote:
BMW-KTM wrote:
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Actually, I've never heard your postulation before. In all seriousness and with all due respect, you very well may need glasses.


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Hmmmm. I've never worn glasses and have always had good vision, but I am getting older and have not been checked in a while. That sucks.


You sound exactly like me 15 years ago. Unfortunately, time marches on and there's nothing we can do about it.

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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:59 am
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I actually started playing on a Fender with a maple neck. Then my next guitar was rosewood, and every guitar after that. I just liked the look of rosewood better.

It wasn't until last year that I noticed a recurring problem. When playing certain venues, I ran across poor lighting circumstances. And I'm not sure, but I may be somewhat colorblind. We played a show at a place that used nothing but RED lights for the stage. I could barely see the markers on the fretboard, and the side markers basically disappeared in the red lights. I didn't have the greatest performance that night.

After that night, I started to be more conscious of it. Now I won't buy a guitar that doesn't either have binding, or huge side markers if it's rosewood. I did buy a couple of Maple necked guitars as well. You can see the markers in very poor lighting situations. Now, I bring both types to every show. I love a lot of my rosewood necked guitars. But if the place has poor lighting, back in the case it goes, and out comes a Maple neck or binded one.

By the way, since I've been more conscious of that sort of thing, I noticed something about Fender Strats that's becoming a peeve to me. On their rosewood necks, the side markers are half in the rosewood plank, and half in the maple. That actually drives me nuts now. If I buy another Fender, it'll be a maple neck. I'd rather sacrifice a preferred look of a neck for what I consider more easily visible and functional for me.

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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:40 am
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I once knew a Kiwi who told a story of failing eyesight and poorly seen side markers on dimly lit stages. His solution was to carefully drill out the side markers and install small (I think he said 8 point) brilliant cut cubic zirconium stones instead. I can't remember what he used to set the stones but he said the results were dramatic. The stones would pick up even the slightest light source and glow. I seem to recall he said he set the stones at such a depth that the girdle was flush with the wood or slightly below and the crown/table protruded above. He indicated there was very little interference with his thumb. Nothing that he could not get used to.

I have never tried it but I always thought it was an interesting idea.

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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:53 am
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I prefer the aesthetics of rosewood. I guess if you have a dark room, it would be harder to see the strings, I don't know. It has been so long since I had to look at the fretboard as I am playing.

In a side note, I like the feel of rosewood over maple fretboards.

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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:08 am
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Violin Parent wrote:
This is NOT a discussion about whether there is a tone difference between rosewood and maple. I know that topic has been argued ad nauseum in other threads. No, this thread is about PLAYABILITY AS AFFECTED BY APPEARANCE, and it probably applies more to beginners or anyone who sucks like me and has to LOOK AT THE STRINGS when playing.

Does anyone prefer rosewood because the silver strings contrast with it better and thus are easier to see when playing than a light maple neck?

I'm starting to reach that conclusion. I have 4 guitars with a rosewood fingerboard and one strat with a maple neck, and after playing the rosewood, if I switch to my maple neck I find that looking at the neck is like staring at the sun and the strings are a little bit camoflauged and I have trouble seeing the strings! Thus I'm starting to feel that I can play a little bit better with a rosewood fingerboard that lets me see the strings better.

Does anyone else feel this way? I might need glasses.


This is a real thing.

We noobies rely a lot more on sighting the strings on the fretboard than seasoned players, and I most definitely have more difficulty picking up the silver coloured strings on a maple fretboard than rosewood. And I do wear glasses when playing.

It makes a difference.


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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:12 am
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Violin,

I think I know exactly what your saying. I like the look of maple, in general, over rosewood, but I find for some reason playing rosewood easier and more peaceful and relaxing. I cannot recall anything I have ever composed on maple. It always seems to "happen" on rose.

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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:30 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
Martian wrote:
Actually, I've never heard your postulation before. In all seriousness and with all due respect, you very well may need glasses.


+1


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If string recognition from less than two feet away is an issue then it's time to see an optometrist.

(and yes, I now wear corrective glasses)

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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:47 pm
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I think that's an interesting point in terms of looking at the board. Never really thought about it. However John Mayer has a quote. "Sometimes it doesnt matter what the color is, fret board type and all of that. If it plays like you want it to and it sounds good, than thats your guitar"

My dad and I have both been Rosewood guys. Personally, if it has 6 strings I'll play it.


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Post subject: Re: Maple vs Rosewood Fingerboard -- NOT a discussion of ton
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:29 pm
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I have noticed that strings are harder to see on maple, also, I see the shadows of the strings. Of course, I'm 80 years old and my eyes look like two p-holes in the snow. :)


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