Too much rust. That's a money pit and I wouldn't touch with a 10' pole. It's a Uni-Body design. Walk away brother.

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Now, now, if all is well down south, and they just want it gone for free and sign it over to me, it's mine. If I can't do anything with it, it's up on CL.

I'd lay down a few bills on it, simply because I enjoy the spirit of tinkering. there are actually a couple mopars in my area of better condition, but this one needs a savior. I just thought of something, what if google earth has it from a top view?

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1986 Peavey Envoy 110
1967 Kingston Acoustic

How will you move it.. It has to be trailered to be taken away, that is hopefully taking into account that the wheels aren't seized and it can be hoisted onto a flatbed...

As far as repairs or putting it back on the road...???
Unless you have $10,000 to start with i would not touch it even if it is free.
In this economy trying to sell it to a rest orator will be a lot of work especially since you'll want to recoup your initial costs.

Tinkering is one thing, but from the photo's if you are at all serious about bringing that back, that means in your garage, up on jack-stands, dismantle everything off the car except the frame and body..Motor out, take it apart, will probably need new rods, rings, repolish cylinder walls etc..etc..
Undercarriage will very likely need stripping, grinding, welding, repainting,
Same with the body, all in all you are looking at about 1 year or more to bring it back to driveable status, 2 to 3 in all reality unless you are outsourcing the repairs which then will cost you in the high 5 figures and above....Not for the fainthearted or light in the wallet....

Starting this fall, I will be pulling this ( 1.8T Avant ) into my garage to begin a BT Stage III build with all the necessary upgrades....budget is about $10,000...This is for a car which is currently on the road and has no problem reaching 135mph...



Will probably be along this theme when I'm done, this is Kneel's B6, you can find us on Audizine Forum... These pics are from last year's Avantoberfest cruise, 36 Audi's cruised from Danbury CT to Lime Rock Race Track to Stratford VT and back....



BTW some of these are upwards of 300HP in AWD...



Just as much fun as building guitars....Actually the Strats fit inside unseen...

Think very seriously before jumping in, I grew up around race cars and di my own mods as soon as I could..It is never as inexpensive as you thought and always more work than ever imagined....My one nightmare was a VW Scirocco which I bought for $200.00 I ended up giving it away because of the inherent issues with the car, basically a complete rehab was in order and at the time I certainly was not in a financial windfall to have undertaken such a project.
And that was with our own shop full of tools to undergo the project...

If I were you Buxom, I would pass, if you really want something fun and relatively inexpensive to mod, look for an MKII or III Golf or GTI....

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And your looking at a $40,000 to make that car drivable. And plus, it's not a desirable car.

If it was a 68, that would be a different story.

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Basically, if I get it for a low price or for free, just mess with it. A user on another forum gave me a great idea of how to go about getting it for as little as possible. but I wouldn't mind having something just to do in my free time, other than computers and guitars. I built a go kart in 5th grade, maybe I should up the scale, you know?

The main thing that fascinates me about it is the current condition. How did it get there, and why. Why has it been sitting since 1984, why is it where it is, what happened? I don't perceive beauty the way the average person does. It's hard to explain, but I can't really perceive flaws that well. sure, I can see them, but feel like they don't really have a meaning. I tend to only focus on what I think is beautiful, or think strange things are beautiful, like that car. And sure, sometimes flaws get to me, but I try not to let them. Sometimes life can happen.

and I hope no one here thinks I think this will be an easy thing, of course it isn't. I don't even expect it to roll, much less turn over, but I'm sort of an optimist. I just think it would be fun to have the different car guys in my family join in, like my dad, who loves working on cars, or my uncle, who restored a Mustang, or my great uncle who did a Fairlane (I think, I know it's an early 60s Ford) I want to learn as well. I want to learn more than what I know (which is basic stuff, brakes, oil, hammering dents, etc) I want to get into real body work, and not to make a profit on the car, or to have a nice car, but because I've always loved cars. They're just fascinating to me.

As car guys, you should know what I mean

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Another thing, I could also join the auto tech program at school and use it as a class project. I'd have state of the art equipment at my disposal, and also a few trained hands to guide me.

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But...Buxom..It is 2012..What your Dad and uncle did back in the 70's was inexpensive compared to today.
In any case if you have never done this before, then start small with a project that you can pull off in 6 months or less.
That car is a giant hole in the ground in which you'll be throwing lots of money down the well...

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They did theirs in the late 2000s

I dono, maybe it's my optimism getting to me. Someone pessimize me.

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1984 Squier Contemporary Stratocaster
1986 Peavey Envoy 110
1967 Kingston Acoustic

Did I mention the auto tech class is free?

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1984 Squier Contemporary Stratocaster
1986 Peavey Envoy 110
1967 Kingston Acoustic

Baby steps buxom. You have no idea what your getting into. I built an E series roughly 89 Kawasaki KDX 200 from the ground up starting with a $2 frame. It took me about $6000 and a year and a half to finish. And yea, it was a labor of love, but I had the extra money and many years of experience.







Edit: Built a few Mountain bikes too.

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Not trying to dissuade you, but you are looking at months of work and many thousands of dollars in expense. You can be as optimistic as you wish, the reality where car renovations is concerned is expensive.....
And if you don't have the rescourses to do this, it will be a big hunk of metal sitting in your driveway or garage.....And if it has been sitting like that since 84...almost 30 years just about garantee's major corrosion in and around the underbody, all hydraulic brake lines are shot, mounts are decayed, I would not touch it unless your Dad and Uncle are willing to go in with you in expense and labor, lots of labor....

First you need to look at the car objectively, then I highly recommend sitting down and crunching the numbers as to how much money it will cost just to get it stripped out....

Edit...I just looked again at those pics....See the swiss cheese holes around the lower quarter panels...Those are a sure sign that things are much much worse than they look..

Seriously...start small and fairly simple, that is a bigger undertaking than you think...

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i've restored a couple of old cars and a bike, and whatever you think it will cost, double it, at least. however long you think it will take, triple it. and if you can see rust on the outside, assume that underneath the paint the rust spot is at least 5 times as big.

99% of car restorations that are then sold lose money. unless you find a super rare car, get free labour and dont have to spend too much on parts, you will lose money. the mechanical side of old cars is easy, by far the simpelst part of restoration. bodywork and paintwork is the killer. if you cant paint it yourself to a very decent standard, and you dont know anybody who can weld, this is a total no-go. the hardest parts to get for old cars are usually interior trim and all the tiny little odd bits of chrome and tart-up bits. if you had to get somebody to re-trim the seats from scratch, that alone will cost you a shitload.

yes, if you get it free you can tinker and learn some stuff and teach yourself some stuff. but you will either end up selling it at a loss, unfinished or it will sit in your garden rotting away like it currently is.

i know because i done it. i brought a little 1983 Yamaha 'Fizzy chopper' 50cc moped off my neighbour, and had it stripped in boxes within the day. id never touched a spanner in anger in my life before that afternoon, never owned anything with an engine, i was 15. a year later id spent a fair few quid on it, and it looked great, but i could never get the carb to work properly. then it sat in my garden for 4 years under a tarp, getting slowly worse until i sold it to pay a new interior for my car.







sold it to buy an all new interior for this, my first car an only car until about 2 weeks ago. i spent a year restoring it before i passed my test. 1967 triumph spitfire.









ive had to do a lot of work to it, luckily my dad is a mechanic, and ive learnt off him. im at the point where i could rebuild that car myself without help, learnt just from working on it. it has cost me just over what its worth at the moment, im currently respraying it then selling it ASAP. so even though i have done all the paint, interior trimming, engine work, other mechanical work and parts for these cars are pretty cheap, its still cost more than its worth. and this mk3 is the most desireable of the 5 spitfire models. i have replaced it with this, which ive already brought and am using, once i finish the spit it gets sold to ay for this 1984 ford capri 2.0s.









this car cost half what the spit is worth, but it will still cost me money and time, and at soem point within probably 5 years its going to need serious work when it starts to disintergrate.

if i was you, and i wanted to get into car fiddling, i'd look for something small and old, which probably means european. mini's, beetles, triumphs, MG's all very popular in the US, abundant in numbers, cheap parts and a huge following. its an easy way into classic cars.

I like the Spitfire, when I was 15-16 my dad had a Sunbeam Alpine which I would sneak out on Lantern Hill Rd when they were away for the weekend...

But what about that blue B6 A4 cabriolet sneaking into the pic...

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thats my bro's Audi. i cant stand it, drives like a barge, feels like a tank. does go well, 1.8 turbo and its the quattro aswell. ive driven it a couple of times, just dont like it. and it depreciates like throwing cash onto a fire. but then my tastes are obviously a bit different to his. my impression of the audi might be because im used to my spitfire, which is about 5 feet long and feels like strapping yourself into a rollerskate with an engine at the front. its glorious to drive, i use my cars everyday, all year, and even going to the shop in the spit puts a ridiculous smile ony our face.

it also sounds huge (for a 50 year old 1.3)



wish i had some video of it being driven to hear it properly. if anything its too loud, which is partly why im selling it. i can only afford one car, and the 'sensible' decision is the capri. RWD spitfire on a snow covered empty carpark = monumental fun. at least the capri is RWD aswell.......

Certainly Buxom, I'd be delighted. Don't buy that POS. You walk the fine line between optimism and delusion.
Glad to help
...Mark.