Pawn Shop with no ethics.

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

nicebassbro wrote:

whoa! a little extreme, comparing someones life, to a material object...its just not the same. ...Its kind of like going to a drug deal, and getting caught by the police. you know its a bad idea, and there might be repercussions, but you still do it anyway. I do agree that what happened to his bass, is an absolute massacre...though

nice!

You took some of what I said out of context. I don't compare material objects to someone's life. I revere life and am not materialistic.

massacre, nice!

chef, nice says the pawn shop massacred your bass, nice!

nicebassbro · **Joined:** Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:47 am **Posts:** 200

RCB-CA-USA wrote:

nicebassbro wrote:

whoa! a little extreme, comparing someones life, to a material object...its just not the same. ...Its kind of like going to a drug deal, and getting caught by the police. you know its a bad idea, and there might be repercussions, but you still do it anyway. I do agree that what happened to his bass, is an absolute massacre...though

nice!

You took some of what I said out of context. I don't compare material objects to someone's life. I revere life and am not materialistic.

massacre, nice!

chef, nice says the pawn shop massacred your bass, nice!

sorry if i took some of your words out of context. Im a lover not a fighter. I would much rather learn from my experiences and just move on with it all. I just think the end result wouldn't be worth the headache

oxfan · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 4:54 am

O.K., so what does this have to do with Alex Baldwin?

Exodus 20:13
“You shall not murder.

New International and New King James Vesion both translate as "murder".

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

oxfan wrote:

O.K., so what does this have to do with Alex Baldwin?

Good question!

oxfan wrote:

Exodus 20:13
“You shall not murder.

New International and New King James Vesion both translate as "murder".

Wiki states:

The Ten Commandments...Exodus 20:1-17, Deuteronomy 5:4-21...Thou shalt not kill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

Not once during any of my substantial religious training was the word "murder" *ever* used when the Ten Commandments were discussed -- my father, Catholic; my mother, Jewish, me seeking out our creator via many different formal doctrines due to the confusion and inconsistencies in the old and new testaments.

Instead, "turn the other cheek" and "thou shalt not kill" were commonly combined in the message in one way or another.

No preacher or rabbi or ...whatever tried to explain that "thou shalt not kill" equated "thou shalt not murder", instead...we're supposed to..."turn the other cheek" if harmed in *any* way.

No doubt; the "secret societies" responsible for the perversion of knowledge will send out droves of shills in an attempt to further pervert the truth of the frauds that have perpetrated upon creation.

nikininja · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 1:42 pm

There you have it. Ignorance-a-go-go once more. Ignore the preeminent resource on biblical Hebrew and Greek translation. Compiled and cross checked by over 6000 professors in language and history. In favour of some half cocked, self concocted notion we'll no doubt be subject to soon.

I can't wait.

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

nikininja wrote:

There you have it. Ignorance-a-go-go once more. Ignore the preeminent resource on biblical Hebrew and Greek translation. Compiled and cross checked by over 6000 professors in language and history. In favour of some half cocked, self concocted notion we'll no doubt be subject to soon.

I can't wait.

...there's substantial evidence to refute all that. Have you seen the facts contained in this video:

The Bible's Buried Secrets The Garden of Eden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1scTuY4 ... re=related

Apparently, the alleged facts contained in that vid demonstrate that war and capitalism were at the root of the original sin, not eating from the tree of knowledge between good an evil.

The information in that vid helps to establish a perversion of creation -- including the mainstream interpretation of "thou shalt not kill", "turning the other cheek" leaving the truly ignorant helpless in defending themselves during physical attacks upon their temples (bodies), and during theft or vandalism of their property (no law suit, just take it up the u know what, turn the other cheek...simply abandon your property to a theif).

53magnatone · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 4:11 pm

Could someone explain how this thread arrived at this point of nonsense from where it began :?:

Pawning something is never a pleasant experience and in your case OP you should just lick your wounds and close the door.
You have your instrument back and to pursue this in court will cost you time effort and money.
Which I would guess are all valuable resources and of which you have little to spare.
Hence why you pawned your instrument...
Chalk it up to one of life's bitter experiences and keep yourself from repeating the scenario that got you there in the first place.

As far as the advice on spreading the word locally and costing them customers..... :lol:

Are you serious... :roll:

Or have you not realized a pawnshops demographics.... :?:

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

53magnatone wrote:

Could someone explain how this thread arrived at this point of nonsense from where it began :?:

I could explain how this thread arrived at such an interesting philosophical conversation about what to do when a pawn shop wrongs you..., but not why *you* think it "nonsense." I never find discussing the improvement of humanity nonsense.

Why do so many people look down on pawn shops??? It's an easy, affordable way to turn a valuable asset into cash *and* get the asset back when you can repay the loan without having to sell the asset quickly for a loss.

Your attitude and comments gives license to pawn shops to continue mistreating people.

chef, what scenario lead you to the pawn shop?

In the past, me trying to start a business in a rigged economy lead me to a pawn shop. What's wrong with that? Should I have quit trying to build a business to put a roof over my head and food on the table and starve, or utilize a pawn shop to get over a financial bump in the road?

EDIT: Here's part 1 of The Bibles Buried Secrets (the vid I posted above), there's three parts, part one helps to further establish the "religious" fraud I am investigating, the root of all frauds in my humble opinion, including the root what happened to chef and what needs to be fixed so stuff like that don't happen anymore...what happened to chef is sickening to me:

Part 1 -- The Bibles Buried Secrets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtEsQT5M ... el&list=UL

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

For everybody's convenience:

The Bibles Buried Secrets (all in one place):

Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtEsQT5M ... el&list=UL

Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uooaogbj ... el&list=UL

Part 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1scTuY4 ... ature=plcp

This information will help us to begin to dispel the myth of letting pawn brokers screw clients and to continue to screw clients based on misinterpretations of "turn the other cheek."

Do your homework ye nay sayers!

Enjoy ye seekers of truth!

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

Arc-n-spark wrote:

There's nothing to say really. Sorry you had to pawn yer guit in the first place but at least ya got it back.

Yeah. Gotta treat your baby like a real human
and not give her to the pervert wanna-beees.

Hey, if someone asked you to watch their 1955 Fender Stratocaster
and their 1954 Fender 5B6 1x15 Bassman for three months,
wouldn't you at least take a peek?

Toppscore

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

Toppscore wrote:

Hey, if someone asked you to watch their 1955 Fender Stratocaster
and their 1954 Fender 5B6 1x15 Bassman for three months,
wouldn't you at least take a peek?

I wouldn't so much as touch them until the owner came back to retrieve them or forfeited them, period. And, they'd be thoroughly secured so as to prevent the weak willed from gaining access to them -- firing them if they so much as touched somebody else's property, even for a peek. Do not touch means, do not touch.

Some people are plumb fecked up.

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

RCB-CA-USA wrote:

Toppscore wrote:

Hey, if someone asked you to watch their 1955 Fender Stratocaster
and their 1954 Fender 5B6 1x15 Bassman for three months,
wouldn't you at least take a peek?

I wouldn't so much as touch them until the owner came back to retrieve them or forfeited them, period. And, they'd be thoroughly secured so as to prevent the weak willed from gaining access to them -- firing them if they so much as touched somebody else's property, even for a peek. Do not touch means, do not touch. Some people are plumb fecked up.

I just said a peek :lol:

Gotta know if someone swapped them on your lunch break.
Don't wanna wait till the owner finds out.

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

Toppscore wrote:

RCB-CA-USA wrote:

Toppscore wrote:

Hey, if someone asked you to watch their 1955 Fender Stratocaster
and their 1954 Fender 5B6 1x15 Bassman for three months,
wouldn't you at least take a peek?

I wouldn't so much as touch them until the owner came back to retrieve them or forfeited them, period. And, they'd be thoroughly secured so as to prevent the weak willed from gaining access to them -- firing them if they so much as touched somebody else's property, even for a peek. Do not touch means, do not touch. Some people are plumb fecked up.

I just said a peek :lol:

Gotta know if someone swapped them on your lunch break.
Don't wanna wait till the owner finds out.

boo boos happen, not worth the peek with somebody else's gear, nevertheless, that gear.

Furvel · **Joined:** Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:06 pm **Posts:** 56

chef wong wrote:

So, I get my Jazz Plus outta pawn after many monthly loans with Uncle Sam's. It looked like someone had to have dragged the body all the way to the sales desk! I assure you it wasn't this way before, and I had stuffed the instrument into a large hoodie sweater that was later wrapped very well in duct tape(by one of the better clerks). I go tell the owner..he's like "what are you going to do?" Well, I'm doing it!

I have a pretty good idea who went all the way with unwrapping, and scratching the heck outta the back of my bass. This guy has thrown little digs at me in the back of the store, when it was just us. He's quite bitter. I just smile, seriously. I've never talked down to this guy in any way, whatsoever...even when he tells me some malarkie about his jammin' with Fleetwood Mac. Bold statement, seeing that I've never even heard him play! I get the impression that he can't jam, at all. He just knows a good deal about stringed instruments, in which I do respect him for(a little).

I don't expect the nicest of people from a pawn shop..but still. This was no accident.

Anyway...the finish did buff out. The scratches were only down to the clearcoat.

Any suggestions on how to handle this?

I work in a pawn shop. We take very good care of the guitars in our care, and we have hangers for the ones that come in case-or-bag-less. To be fair I'm sure some pawn shops aren't as considerate as ours. Rule of thumb here is: If you HAVE to pawn a fine instrument, make sure you have it in a hardshell case. Toting your fine axe around in a hoodie is just asking for trouble.

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