I cannot stand Nickelback....... I cannot specify but they make my skin crawl.

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I feel the same way about Nickelback, can't stand them....but I got free tickets to one of their shows and decided I would check it out. I was surprised by the quality of the show in general and for their fans I think it was considered a "great" show.

I was shocked when the singer was noodling around between songs and I recognized South of Heaven by Slayer which I did NOT expect.

The other cool part of the show was there happened to be a "couger" convention in town (seriously) and the place was packed with hot older ladies and their 20 to 30 year old daughters. Apparantly that crowd are BIG Nickelback fans.

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the guitar players from the 80's told their kids to play country. thats where the money is. "country music" today is what i call southern rock. i like it.

I dont think they effected the state of todays mainstream music, it's just really hard to be original these days. And I also agree with the dude that said the more technology we use, the dumber we get, therefore the dumber the music gets.

BUT before you say anything about todays music, please, please actually look beyond what the radio has to offer. Independent rock music is stronger than ever thanks to the internet, an I listen to lots of new bands that are #$@*&!% kickass. Probably one of my favourite bands, The Vasco Era, I found browsing Deaf Ambitions, and to be honest, IMO, they kick alot of the bands from the 70's arse's. God knows how they're not massive yet.
People have GOT to get it in their heads that the music on the radio, suprisingly, isn't the only music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE0tVUDzfsg (thats the only clip I can find of that song, and yes it is only some of it)

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The quality of music being released has, and will always be, exactly the same. Most music, books, movies, etc. that get released are terrible. We tend to forget the awful art that gets released because it doesn't have any substance, and therefore, doesn't resonate any emotions inside of us, or make us think differently. Bad art/music is generally made by people looking to do something other than make art/music. They want to sell you something. I'm not going to give specific examples because everybody has different tastes but there is always something being made and released that is great, sincere, and pushing the idea of what music (art, etc.) should be. Anybody expecting to be amazed by the music being made to sell you things needs to listen to music being made by people who are making it because they love it and try their hardest to make great music. Dig a little bit deeper; there's amazing music being made right now, just as there always has been.

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http://www.octafish.bandcamp.com

I have to say, being a father of a 14 year old boy, a lot of the music he listens to has some appeal to me. Disturbed, Godsmack, System of a Down, Asking Alexandria, Falling in Reverse, Avenged Sevenfold, all have guitarist with serious chops. Synyster Gates is the sweeping arpeggio king of metal, and Dan Donegan does finger tap arpeggios that make me green with envy. Just my .02¢
ChefJoey

Once again.

Anyways, It's hard for me to enjoy new music being produced, considering I've heard so much already. I'm probably damn near everything. I usually end up comparing them to another band "Oh, they sound a bit too much like band X, if I wanted to hear band X, I'd listen to band X." is usually what I think of. And it's fine to have your influences, but don't ,try to be them.

Like this embarrassment:

Drake stole basically this whole song. (If you don't like rap, don't click)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3xZRbgD1j4
It was a fine song imo. my friends and I have had fun with this song before. It's fun to cruise with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISRPXMlrxoA (stolen)

I hate Drake for starting YOLO as well. I hope he dies soon to prove his point.

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1967 Kingston Acoustic

I looked up those bands on youtube and they do nothing for me ... maybe Im getting old... but I still love some of the new music coming out that has that classic rock feel or even new blues...

Even though I grew up in the 80's, I was exposed to not only 80's music, but music from the 60s and 70s...

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In Reference to Blues Legend RL Burnside:
After a heart attack in 2001, Burnside's doctor advised him to stop drinking; Burnside did, but he reported that change left him unable to play.

I think for the most part its somewhere in the middle. Yes: the youth of today (and I am a part of it) enjoys instant gratification and one could argue (and be right) that so much of what happens now is on a computer. I remember a couple years ago I looked around and went "did anyone else notice Lady GaGa put out three albums in three years and toured during it all? Shows how much thought goes into it."

However, I think their has always been bad pop music. For a while I remember thinking I wish rock was popular and led the music industry along but I have kind of realized it has never really led. Just a subsection of something bigger. So now when everyone creates beats on computer, we can enjoy what WE create. If you dont like how something is done, do it yourself.

Its somewhere in the middle. Yeah music now sucks but in general popular music has always sucked. I think its just more thrown at us now.

I have had this debate many times and I think there are a couple of things to remember.

1/ WHen we are young we soak up sooooo much more, new sounds excite us and peer pressure has a lot to do with what we listen to in the main part....we 'train' ourselves to listen to stuff that doesn't necessarily jump out at us.

2/ As musicians, we become snobs........ it becomes more difficult for us to listen to stuff that doesn't fit with what we like......there I said it . I don't care what anyone says, I believe this to be the truth. My wife doesn't play any instruments but listens to and likes far more new stuff than I do. I get 'stuck' in certain styles and sounds....much like my 'search for tone' thing........

THere are loads of new guitarists, bands that are awesome and, yes, they don't temd to get the limelight, but it's always been the same. It's just the mainstream has moved on from what we liked at a younger age..............every type of music is accessible now without having to 'hunt' the weird little record shops down dark lanes. Remember 'pop' music is just that....'popular' and the popular stuff is what the kids listen too.......they still dominate chart sales, radio play lists etc...............

ALso different countries have different tastes....Look At the Dave MAtthews band.........propbably one of the biggest selling artists in the world......but has he actually had a hit in the UK? A pretty mean guitarist too and Tim Reynolds that plays in his acoustic shows is almost completely unknown over here........Ben HArper as well another one who is a hugely talented guitarist and singer songwriter but doesn't get a big show in the UK.

UK and the US are two of the worst for having their music industries run by 'moguls'......COwell, Lithgoe et al yet Europe, JApan, Australia have a huge music scene that will never make it in either because the artists are generally not 'puppets'.....go to any other country bar UK and AMerica and the radio stations are far more eclectic, far more accepting and far more positive about playing stuff that we would not deem commercial enough........

Lecture over!! Rant, rave, curse, shout, blah blah blah blah blah blah!!!!

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speak slowly I'm a drummer too!!

And I proudly lack a stick or a kazoo up my arse...........

There's good pop music now too. I'm not above saying that there are a few Lady Gaga songs which I think are great. Gotye makes really good pop music in a similar vein to Peter Gabriel or Sting.

There has been crap music as long as there has been music. Take the Bass Aria from Handel's Messiah. Its was written in the 1740s and its simply shocking.

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If you think cruddy music is a recent (after the mid-eighties) trend, consider these earth-shattering works of art:

"Yummy, yummy yummy, I've got love in my tummy..." I won't look up who did that song because I don't want such drivel in my browser history.
Anything by WASP...
Lawrence Welk
Pat Boone
Fabian
The Captain and Tenille, "Muskrat Love"
Elvis' song, "Teddy Bear"
Anything by Stryper...
Donnie & Marie (and/or any Osmonds)
Wayne Newton
Rick Springfield
The Village People
The entire Skiffle movement.
Bobby Goldsboro (the jackwagon who sang "Honey")
David Cassidy
Sean Cassidy
Leif Garrett
Andy Gibb
Boston (yes, that Boston...yes, I know they can play...yes, I know he made an amp the size of a sandwich...but they have recorded the same bloody album three or four times [or however many albums they recorded], and it just doesn't move me)
Hair Metal
Culture Club (they came out--literally and figuratively--before 1985)
Menudo
The Turtles
John Denver
Peter, Paul and Mary
Melanie ("Rollerskate Key") played Woodstock, for cryin' out loud!
...and a million others

Current pop stars that actually have something:
Adele. Gorgeous voice, plays several instruments, writes or co-writes most of her own material
Katy Perry. Good voice. Plays several instruments, and writes or co-writes a good deal of  her own music. Plus, if you don't like the song, you can turn down the sound and just look at her.
Colbie Caillet. Ditto to everything above.
I personally don't like 97% of Laddy Gagger's (do you see what I did there?) music or performances...BUT, she actually writes, plays and sings her own material. Plus, she really seems to connect with her fans.
Beyonce can sing.
Gwen Stefani ditto.
The chick who sings "Jar of Hearts"
Amy Winehouse (RIP)

There are good/talented artists and good songs...yes, most of the crap you hear today will not be remembered tomorrow, but here's a question for everybody under 35:
Do you know who Spandau Ballet are? Flock of Seagulls? Simple Minds?
Those idiots permeated the radio when I was in high school, and they sucked, too...but there was good stuff, too--the Georgia Satellites, Joan Jett, Tom Petty, Prince, SRV, ZZ Top, the Fabulous Thunderbirds, Dwight Yoakum...
Sometimes you find an entire field of diamonds, and sometimes you  gotta scrape through a lot of mud to find a single gem
Music is good and bad. Trends come and go, and right now it's not that great...but everytime the "scene" stinks, there's a new revolution...just like the 50's explosion of rock & roll, the 60's British Invasion (some of which was terrible), the birth of psychedelic and heavy metal in the 60's, Punk in the 70's. the blues renaissance of the 80's, New Wave in the 80's, grunge in the 90's...we're due for a new movement any minute now.

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Good Vibes To Y'all!



Screamin' Armadillos
Texas Roadhouse Music
Guitar/Slide Guitar/Harp/Vocals

Me

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1986 Peavey Envoy 110
1967 Kingston Acoustic

I can't lie, I had a crush on her when I was 6. I found my mom's No Doubt CD and loved it. (the music too!)

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1984 Squier Contemporary Stratocaster
1986 Peavey Envoy 110
1967 Kingston Acoustic

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Rated "M" for meaty.