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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:02 am
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I doubt that there would be near the guitars around, like jackson, or charvel or geez so many, i would probably still be playing a hollow body Gisson like my es135 i have now, but if i didnt have a tele, it would be like not having my dog or somthin, i would be kinda lost


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Interesting question (and answers). I'd guess that I might be playing a Les Pull through a Vox AC30 or something similiar. :?:

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Gibsons and Ibanez's. My two other favorite companies.


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A Taylor T5 would definitely be in my arsenal


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Hmmm...this is a good question. Well, it would have to be Gibson, but since I'd never be able to afford Gibson I'd have to rely on Epiphone. Something in the hollowbody semihollow range, probably a Casino, due to the P-90's growl or maybe a Sheraton II. Maybe a Gretsch, but then it would be out of the question if weren't for the Electromatic with the low price. My budget would have a lot to do with it all.

Wait a minute, if Fender didn't exist, then the Gretsch Electromatic wouldn't exist, therefore I couldn't afford a Gretsch either. WOW...this makes you realize just how important Fender is to the guitar world.

:shock: I wonder when Fender plans on buying out Gibson, hehehe


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i dont know about me but think of the history of guitars

Clapton would probaly still play gibson
Hendrix wouldve played gibson
Who knows what SRV wouldve played

its questions like these that i try not to think of alot


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AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

you scared me, dont ever even suggest such a terrible thing :x

and really if you think about it, it is the Fender amps that have shaped our music even more than the guitars, how many Gibby players use fender amps ???

Fender Rules Dude :D


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This'd be a Samick forum and you'd all be playing crappy Chinese guitars :( :oops:

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gibson or ibenez


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i'd most likely go with a PRS, schecter, or a gibson if i could afford it (which is a no)


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Original question: what if Fender had never existed?

What if there had never been a Telecaster? Or a Stratocaster? Or a Jazzmaster, Jaguar, P-Bass, or J-Bass? Or Fender amps?

We'd probably all be using archtop hollowbodies and 'doghouse basses' and playing swing or jazz music, old style blues, or rockabilly-and/or it would've slowed down the progress of Rock 'N Roll considerably. Gibson probably never would've called Les Paul back about making a solidbody guitar (they blew him off until they noticed that Teles were actually cutting into Gibson sales-I think that Les Pauls were the ONLY 'Spanish' solidbody guitars that Gibson made in the '50's, especially from 1952 through 1957, next to the EB-1 bass, the Explorer, Flying V-even the ES-335 had a solidbody influence due to the solid center block). There likely wouldn't have been Floyd Roses (what would you have mounted it on?). Jim Marshall would probably still be running a music store and giving drum lessons instead of establishing an amp company. There are probably more examples I could use, but I think you catch my drift.

In other words, electric-driven, amplified guitar music would've probably been a lot more 'safe' and less adventurous (maybe even boring) without Fender.


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The world of electric guitars would be very different. The Les Paul was rushed to market because of the success of the Tele. Gibson came out with their double cutaway SG both to compete with the Strat and to fill the void after discontinuing the slow selling Les Paul. There would be no companies offering Strat knockoffs or sleak solid bodies of any kind.

In fact, without Fender, the electric guitar just wouldn't be as cool. Maybe we would all be playing piano like the rockers of the '50s.


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The world of electric guitars would be very different. The Les Paul was rushed to market because of the success of the Tele. Gibson came out with their double cutaway SG both to compete with the Strat and to fill the void after discontinuing the slow selling Les Paul. There would be no companies offering Strat knockoffs or sleak solid bodies of any kind.

In fact, without Fender, the electric guitar just wouldn't be as cool. Maybe we would all be playing piano like the rockers of the '50s.


All true. I'm thinking literally, as in what would've happened if Leo Fender did NOTHING except run a radio repair shop? The fact that he and his cohorts literally changed the face and sound of music with their inventions, innovations, and products is astonishing. Does anyone think that Gibson, Gretsch, Guild, or Epiphone, or any other contemporary guitar maker/competitor in 1950 would've done ALL THAT in a couple of years or even a decade? Absolutely NO WAY, in my opinion. After all, nothing stopped them from trying.

Someone's bound to bring up Paul Bigsby-he would allow certain things to be mass produced by others for him (Bigsby trems and the 'Palm Pedal' system, yes), but NOT guitars-he was apparently (according to legend) a bit of a control freak about guitars. There's a story about him firing Semie Moseley (later of Mosrite fame) when Semie was an apprentice for him, under certain similar circumstances (I'll let you look that up online). In short, Bigsby apparently never wanted to go into mass-production of guitars.


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It's fun to speculate, but like most speculation based on the idea of the "great man," it doesn't hold water. Men don't create the times: they are created by the times.

Leo Fender did not invent rock and roll. In fact, he didn't "invent" anything. Like most people who make a lot of money in manufacturing industries, what Leo Fender did was refine a set of existing technologies to the satisfaction of potential consumers.

If he had never done this - if there had never been a Fender Musical Instrument Company - rock and roll would have happened anyway, as it was already happening. Chuck Berry, Bill Haley, Gene Vincent and many others created the raw sound of early rock and roll playing hollow and semi-hollow Gibson guitars. Someone would have further developed early solid bodies (which already existed), and someone would have refined amplifier technology while Leo went on happily fixing 8-track tape decks in his shop.

They resulting guitars would have looked different from Teles and Strats, the amps might have been voiced differently. But our ears would have become attuned to those sounds, because those would have been the sounds used to create the music of our youth, and so today, 50 year old accountants and dentists who saw The Mangles on the Ed Sullivan Show would argue with one another in guitar shops over whether a Zifflomaster made of anything BUT pine (and finished in something as flimsy as nitro, which lets all the vibrations out) could ever really be called a Zifflomaster.

In short, it all would have happened, with different shapes and names. Rock and roll doesn't owe Leo a thing: he, in fact, owed his success to it.


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