Well if Pagey never played another guitar lick his position is secure because of everything Zeppelin did and stood for. They were a colossus. Jimmy has been able to play all these years, i don't know what you're talking about. Most times he's just not been enthusiastic because, let's face it, after Zeppelin everything would be a bit of a let down.

No one said Pagey was the greatest guitarist ever, but he is a legendary one no doubt about that.

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Page (and Beck) are 'dangerous' players. They never played it straight, they come at you from unexpected directions. Each of them have the distinction of being completely unpredictable..

Clapton and SRV are/were players of huge ability and are/were capable of some fantastic moves. To be able to play as well as them would be a huge blessing, and I could just dribble down my shirt watching and hearing some of their performances. BUT, I would argue they play by the numbers. Especially Clapton in his middle and later years. They worked a narrow form and soaked up the players who had travelled the form before them. Once you've heard a few numbers, you can pretty much predict what they're going to play at any one time. Clapton with his corporate, authorative, grey suited blues club vibe and SRV with the greater fire and edginess - but they drove at different speeds on the same main highway. They were commuting. But Page (and Beck) took the back roads, the darker lanes found on no-one's map. They turned off the musical Sat Nav, switched off the headlights and sometimes they didn't get home safe..

Clapton had his moments and at his best he could be innovative too. But musically speaking, he was usually always home in time for tea..

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Being a life-long CLapton fan I was going to have a go at you there Adey......but then......you are absolutely correct!!

I think your distinction is spot on mate!

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All know is I can't write or play music like Page. He was an innovator as was Clapton and Beck. Beck still is an innovator. Sorry guys, but SRV isn't in the same league. He parroted different styles to make his own and still didn't come off to my ear as anything original. That's why you see so many Strats with Hats. Talented, you bet, but not original to my ears and I'm a big fan, but I like Texas Blues in general. It seems easier for players to parrot SRV than Page. Page was sloppy from time to time, but who isn't? Listen to Hendrix, or SRV or Clapton during their party days.

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Welcome to the Forum zosofancmr1, and good luck on your project. Hoping said project doesn't keep you so busy that you will forget to visit and keep us abreast of your progress.
I agree with what everyone has posted so far about Jimmy and would add that when I heard Jimmy Page playing on the Led Zeppelin album I was shopping in a clothing store in downtown Skokie in November or December of 1968, having just seen The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Cream, The Doors, Canned Heat, The Mothers of Invention, The Jefferson Airplane, Iron Butterfly and many more in the previous 6 months, I and so many other guitarists at the time thought that we had all of the guitar inspiration we were ever going to need.
Jimmy Page caught us all by surprise.
Compared to those other guitarists his contribution to his bands music was more melodic and faster and at times more soulful and kind of pulled you along with his perfect (sometimes sloppily perfect) leads. We wanted to be sure so the album was tested at a party. For those of you Brothers and Sisters old enough to know what the "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" is, that is the test we used and everyone there thought the Led Zeppelin album and specifically Jimmy page playing passed the test with flying colors
Led Zeppelin second album sealed Jimmy Page place in the Pantheon of rock and roll guitarists. No guitarist can rock and roll quite like Jimmy Page can.

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+1 again.

Im as big a Zep fan as anyone. Page is a great musician. Sloppy guitar player which I do like. You can argue him as being original since the kinda did lift alot of blues songs and didn't give credit to the artists. But thats who alot of us learn from. Let the Bashing begin.

TBZ...good point about ol Pagey...he did steal a few. He was a fine guitarist (he certainly played some memorable solos on LZ albums), good songwriter, and in a great band, but it was a band and without the three others would not have been as good as it was...LZ was not just JP! Jimmy was a sloppy guitar player, but it was his part of what made him who he was as a guitarist, it was his style, not bad, just what it was.

As for EC...He too is a great guitarist, fine song writer, and lest we forget a fine musician all around...Anyone Remember the Layla album? Some of the finest playing, songwriting, and band leading ever...and there is a difference between playing tightly with a band and ending in time for tea! Did anyone think EC and Duance would have that kind of fire playing together?...as much as I love Jeff Beck and Page was really the rhthym guitarist when the two were in the Yardbirds together and did not inspire each other to more intense playing...EC and Duane together inspired each other and pushed each other HARD.

As for his pedestrian playing during the mid to late seventies of EC and Led Zep...if you want to hear the real difference, give a list to the TSRTS and oh let's say EC's "EC Was Here" live album...if you listen with a non biased ear, you will understand the real difference between EC and JP. Ok...I am now climbing down from my soap box

T2

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Ah you beat me to it. I would just add that he used the Tele on several studio recordings.

'All Of My Love' for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALeXzClEtzQ

Sounds like the B-Bender to me. I love JP for his studio work, the way he layered guitar tracks without making it sound like a mess. The tones he coaxed out of his guitars and amps. He's a good live player, but a great recording artist (IMO).

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Led Zepplin lifted a lot of stuff from Willie Dixon alone and many others.
Whole Lotta Love, I Can't Quit You Baby, You Shook Me were all Dixon's work. The sad thing is the albums credited Plant and Page instead of Dixon. Dixon sued them for a million dollars and won. Still a great band. They probably thought the songs were public domain. It still doesn't give you the right to put your name on it.

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That's an interesting point.

Though this thread seems to have become unnecessarily polarised. On a good day Page can be flippin' fantastic live, as exciting as anyone. No doubt about that.

Best, second best, third best...? Meh - who cares?

Cheers - C

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