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Post subject: Questions for music subject in school
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:27 pm
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firstly, im not 100% sure your allowed to ask music related questions for school work (i dont know what gave me that idea :? ...), so i carefully read the rules and it doesn't seem to be on 'dont' list, but if i am wrong i apoligise.
anyway im doing VCE music unit 1 and 2 this year, which i'm sure i'm gonna fail at this point. i try my best though
one of the questions i've gotta ask other students and/or musicians is, explain your approach to practice? is there any links between personal practice and rehearsal?

the other one, simaliar, but nonetheless; discuss your strategies to optimise performance outcomes, your performance techniques and your interpretive approach to works being prepared and performed?

if you could answer either one or both that'd be great :) and once again i apoligise if this type of thread breaks the code of conduct.

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Post subject: Re: Questions for music subject in school
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:08 am
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oh, and by the way, irrelavent to my previous post, but while i'm at it i might aswell post a link to my soundclick page, theres some new songs up there, check em out and tell me what you think
http://soundcloud.com/riley1
bare in mind a couple of them were just totally written on the spot

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Post subject: Re: Questions for music subject in school
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:51 am
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Hi Riley, interesting question.

I don't know the VCE units so can't comment directly on that. MAybe you could give a little more info on the course/outcomes/purposes/assessments.......

What I can comment on is the music qualifications I did when I was still at school....Standard Grade and Higher Grade.

You ask about the relation between personal practice and rehearsal...........I tend to find, for myself and my students, that they should pretty much be the same thing when you are studying music........I am not saying don't play anything other than your academic pieces but concentrate more on them until you are sick of them!!!! I always have little exercises that I warm up with; scales, triplets, runs etc but then I spend most time on the pieces I am studying and finsih with some fun exercises.

I find the common approach to learning new pieces to be the best........break it down into chunks, play them slowly until you have the part sorted out then work on speeding it up.
May seem a stupid question but is it guitar you are playing for the course. I ask that because there are many courses that ask you to do a 'solo' instrument and a 'group' instrument so you have to have to instruments to play.
If it is guitar and sight reading is causing issues you can get programs online that will convert music to tab............I don't think that's cheating as long you still learn to read the notation. It's like learning to read music after learning tab if you see what I mean...... :?
I use the same methods to 'optimise performance outcomes' as well. Practice, practice and practice some more is the key tbh. AS far as interpreting the pieces....that fully depends on how well you can play them. When it comes to having set pieces to play you MUST learn to play them verbatim first unfortunately. An assessor can tell immediately if you are 'interpreting' because you can't actually play it as it is written........ :(
If you want to give an alternative to the piece you must generally explain that it is your interpretation of it and that kind of interpretation should normally be something totally different rather than a 'simplified' version.......sometimes changing from major to relative minor or from minor to pentatonic or from major pentatonic to relative minor pentatonic can hugely alter the way something sounds but you also have to show you understand WHY it sounds like it does and explain the reason for the change......

SOunds like a helluva lot of info for you but if you want, post on here or pm me and we can work out what level you are at, where you want to take it and what the particular assessments and outcomes you are dealing with are..........it's not cheating, it's reaching out and expanding your study methods!!!! :wink: 8)

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Post subject: Re: Questions for music subject in school
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:45 am
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great, great and great. perfect response, really appreciate it :)
any other people gonna response aswell? after all the more the better

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Post subject: Re: Questions for music subject in school
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:11 am
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pappawookee wrote:
Hi Riley, interesting question.

I don't know the VCE units so can't comment directly on that. MAybe you could give a little more info on the course/outcomes/purposes/assessments.......

What I can comment on is the music qualifications I did when I was still at school....Standard Grade and Higher Grade.

You ask about the relation between personal practice and rehearsal...........I tend to find, for myself and my students, that they should pretty much be the same thing when you are studying music........I am not saying don't play anything other than your academic pieces but concentrate more on them until you are sick of them!!!! I always have little exercises that I warm up with; scales, triplets, runs etc but then I spend most time on the pieces I am studying and finsih with some fun exercises.

I find the common approach to learning new pieces to be the best........break it down into chunks, play them slowly until you have the part sorted out then work on speeding it up.
May seem a stupid question but is it guitar you are playing for the course. I ask that because there are many courses that ask you to do a 'solo' instrument and a 'group' instrument so you have to have to instruments to play.
If it is guitar and sight reading is causing issues you can get programs online that will convert music to tab............I don't think that's cheating as long you still learn to read the notation. It's like learning to read music after learning tab if you see what I mean...... :?
I use the same methods to 'optimise performance outcomes' as well. Practice, practice and practice some more is the key tbh. AS far as interpreting the pieces....that fully depends on how well you can play them. When it comes to having set pieces to play you MUST learn to play them verbatim first unfortunately. An assessor can tell immediately if you are 'interpreting' because you can't actually play it as it is written........ :(
If you want to give an alternative to the piece you must generally explain that it is your interpretation of it and that kind of interpretation should normally be something totally different rather than a 'simplified' version.......sometimes changing from major to relative minor or from minor to pentatonic or from major pentatonic to relative minor pentatonic can hugely alter the way something sounds but you also have to show you understand WHY it sounds like it does and explain the reason for the change......

SOunds like a helluva lot of info for you but if you want, post on here or pm me and we can work out what level you are at, where you want to take it and what the particular assessments and outcomes you are dealing with are..........it's not cheating, it's reaching out and expanding your study methods!!!! :wink: 8)


Riley, my response is, Evan has offered you the most professional response with an option to interact further and enhance your learning about the very questions you've asked. I used tutors frequently when I attended school and because I started working at 13/y.o.a., paid them handsomely to insure I passed which ever class I was being tutored for. This lucky event isn't free though, you must be cool to your Fender Forum Brother Evan from this moment until forever or until Evan has a question that you can help him with Riley. 8)

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