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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:21 pm
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Buxom. Fender1Guy re-appeared after being thrown out of this board, you appear at the same time again. He posts a video where he plays "Sweet chile" with his teeth (not too shabby, though) you start the same thread just at the same day. He gets on everybody's nerves in the Gibson forum, you follow him step by step like his twin brother or shadow.

You guys are trolling heavily. Some gullible guys here believe in your fairytales (suicides, fingers hurt.. blah blah), and it's not going to take long, and we have the rants going on again.

Stop it.


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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:47 pm
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Buxom aka Fender1Guy aka every other troll is really.....

him....

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Can you say ,....

BUSTED....

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:02 pm
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SKcoppertele wrote:

I'm not going to say that the suicide is fake.but as soon as I asked him to play something he couldn't.he came up with an excuse.


I'm quite sure. It came right after somebody started to doubt his story. We played this "oh, I have cancer" thing very often. It really makes people shut up.


Don't feed the troll(s).

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:09 pm
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Buxom can--and has--trolled (trollen?) in the past, but I think he's just trying to have some fun with this goofy thread.

I was a bit blunt, saying "just play", but that may have been the grouchy-old-man-in-training in me coming out...but I think he's ok, for a tooth guitarist.

FenderPerson1/DoofusDownUnder/SuperSquirrel is in his own class. I don't think he's got enough going on in the thought process to purposely be trolling.

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:13 pm
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Kid! Everyone is bangin up on you which aint fair, your just a kid, But by jeezez you ask for it, In all fairness i just listened to that again and i am sure as a beginner guitarist and a typical silly kid if it was recorded with out all the interference it "may" resemble individual musical notes in a way out way, Your a kid your allowed to act like one, Just understand when your preaching your brand of typical silly kid nonsense about a subject in a forum that the majority of people responding have spent decades honing there skills to be highly skilled guitarists that that sort of abstract Jack White style is going to be met with a grain of salt and not taken too seriously......

So go outside get on your bike or skate board or play with your dog and act like a silly kid its good for you.......and dont get to wound up about our reactions to your "Ode to teeth spectacular" huh..... It was pretty funny in a weird way but you wont be doin battle at the crossroads with that stuff boy... :wink:

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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:33 pm
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Someone got a lot of flak on the Gibson forum by just giving one these kid posters some honest but friendly critique just the other day. The kid posted a somewhat less than stellar cover of I believe it was Voodoo Child and was saying "Jimi would be pleased"They simply said that it needed work and told him to keep on plugging at it.The next thing people who had told him he was fabulous started giving the guy a verbal knuckle rapping.He wrote back saying that to tell a kid especially that he is fabulous when he clearly isn't doesn't do him any favours but makes him falsly confident and complacent perhaps to the point that he believes that he's so good that he doesn't need to try any harder.I tend to agree,lying to a kid thinking that you're saving his feelings and encouraging him is doing the exact opposite to the desired effect.Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, it is much more helpful to the kid's development as a musician and a person to kindly let him know what he's doing wrong and where he can afford to improve to do otherwise will make him cocky and arrogant and still a poor musician.

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:08 pm
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Buxom, I think that deep down you know what you need to do. Go back to basics and really learn to play.
It can be tedious at first and no-ones going to be patting you on the back every ten minutes. It's hard at first and lonely.
When you post these barely musical experiments on the website of the worlds leading musical instrument company, well you're going to attract plenty of criticism.
If you are serious about becoming a player, you really need to stop worrying about your "tone" and silly gimmicks and really dedicate yourself to some theory and practice.
Playing standard tuning is not the only way to go, but it's a damn good start. This, and some basic chords will provide a platform from which you can really express yourself. Yes, you've tried all that blah blah, well try again. The reactions you get from the experienced players here should tell you that you need a different approach.
A few hours a day doing the basics is all that it takes ( about the same time spent making ten post per day on here)

OK, I'll get off your back now.

Think about it.

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:22 pm
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When I was starting out on guitar I had a no-name old relic with strings like mooring cables and about 1/2" action and I literally played and played until my fingers bled,I certainly didn't have the luxury of a Squier or even a Starcaster but I kept at it sometimes for 10 hours + a day. I wouldn't have considered for one second appearing in public and playing until I knew in my heart that I was proficient enough to garner favourable feedback.I was 15 when I started gigging and by then I had acquired enough skills and proficiency to play without fear of ridicule.It appears to me that a lot of todays kids are of a completely different mindset and once they know just the rudimentary basics they put it out for the world to see.When they do that one of two things happen either they are the target for putdowns and ridicule or people tell them that their playing is just great and that they are truly protegies.Neither one of these approaches is right.Ridicule causes insecurity and discouragement while overstated praise to the point of being hyperbole is damaging in the fact that it falsely creates overconfidence and a huge ego without contributing to the kid bettering himself so that when he finally encounters the hard truth he is either shattered or becomes beligerent because he has been wrongly told he was great so often that he actually becomes delussional about the quality of his playing.That's why I believe that honesty is the best policy and they can be told what areas of their playing they need to improve without being insulting or brutal.Of course there are some cases where they actually believe that they are the next guitar god and in a case like that maybe a dressing down may be a wake up call to them and in the long run be the kindest thing done to them.

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:08 am
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There's always seemed to be an imbalance in how people treat their kids.

For years it ranged from, "don't compliment them, they'll get a big head" (the way my parents treated me) all the way down to, "children are to be seen, not heard" on down to outright mental and emotional (if not physical) abuse.

Then the page turned--people were supposed to compliment and bless our children's efforts, no matter what the outcome. "It doesn't matter that you burned down the house, Johnny; that was a really good fire you built!" Everyone gets a trophy--even the last place person.

That led to a generation of kids who could not handle failure or disappointment. They couldn't handle criticism from their boss, and they didn't understand why they didn't get a raise within the first month of being on the job..."I don't know why he hates me--mommy always complimented everything I did, even my bowel movements!"

Lady Armadillo and I were raised somewhat tough--we weren't coddled, but we weren't beaten, either (although my parents were bit quick with the paddle--even they admit that). We are firm on the Armadillo 'Tween--we give her praise where it is due and correction where it is needed. We don't compliment her for half-hearted efforts...and she has become a conscientious worker, student and person.

I think Buxom was just trying to have some fun and some of us overreacted and said, "Come on, man...get real." it was just a silly little goofy video, and the situation got a little too personal and serious.

I apologize if I hurt your feelings, but I won't lie and say that the "performance" was anything but bad. You might have been going for "funny bad", but it failed on the funny part.

Not too long ago, I posted a sound clip of a new guitar I bought. After listening to it, I rrealized it sounded like crap and removed it. I didn't want to promote or celebrate a mediocre performance. When we recorded our first disc, there was a song that we had worked very hard to get "right"; however, after ten too many overdubs and "fixes", and a lot of hours of editing, I finally said, "We gotta scrap this and start over--only one thing is right, and it's only half-right." We started over and nailed it on the first (new) take, and then only had to overdub the vocals. The valuable lesson of realizing that something may be bad, even after time and effort, has served us very well as a group.

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:28 am
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Posting crap on a forum claiming to be a musician is one thing...playing crap in public among real musicians will get your feelings hurt really quick...if you talk the talk,you better walk the walk.


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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:59 am
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Well, after sitting on my throne of thought (the toilet, to those who don't think while excreting fecal matter) I found that the people who are worth talking to here, though few, outweigh the value of people not worth talking to. I know I'm not very good at the genres you play, I haven't tried to oversell my playing by claiming to be a god or w/e. In fact, I've gone on about how much better I feel about playing because everything is simple. But the one time I try to do something intricate, every mother $@!&#* on the forums has to lay me down and opens their shitlocker right on me. And I'm sorry if I'm too blunt, but that seems to be the only thing to work. I'm not expecting praise, I'm just expecting to be heard in some way.

Peace, the $@!&, out.

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:08 am
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Not trying to tweak you or anything, but why don't you record a clip of what you do best and post it here?

Simple isn't bad (and is preferable in some cases) and I don't remember any posts of you playing, other than this "dental" one...and if someone lambasts you for playing "simple", well, ignore them.

However--if your playing is bad--I'm talking LudNuts bad--you're gonna get criticized, so be honest with yourself before you post.

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:21 am
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
However--if your playing is bad--I'm talking LudNuts bad--you're gonna get criticized, so be honest with yourself before you post.

Or better still if your playing is that bad then by all means don't post as no one wants to hear that. :idea:

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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:22 am
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Well, SA, you get a fresh one. I made this up about 10 minutes ago. Just a small clip.

http://soundcloud.com/purplefaced/burn

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Post subject: Re: Well, I recorded myself playing Ode To Joy with my teeth
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:32 am
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How do you get to hear that link? i clicked on it to take me to the site, hit play and nothing happens :?:

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