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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:20 am
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Thank you Ceri. I talked with the tech and he said " call me after the Easter weekend" I will get the neck replaced on my black P-bass then. I worked on the paint-over body today:

this is the decal that I bought from John at PYOG, Image

this is what I did next, Image

the next thing was to reassemble the bass guitar, install the Dimarzio's, Image

My apologies to all because I just couldn't take the chance to possibly ruin a perfectly good bass guitar body, and that I wouldn't part with 400 American to have a professional do the refinish, and installing the pickups instead of paying a professional 125 American/bass guitar.
I wanted them wired for hotness and thought there might be an extra charge for that. I'm waiting for the neck to be attached to the black body. I'm waiting for pickups for the same bass guitar as well, I'll update.

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:12 pm
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Photography is not as easy as it looks. An update. I have needed a 5 string bass guitar for a while now and stopped at Guitar Center to play a Fender Jazz V (love that 5 string bass), an Epiphone or 2 or 3 (love the neck through aspect of them, great sound).
I heard Dave Ellefson has a signature bass with Jackson for around 4 large, and, saw the Jackson copy, tried it out, loved the tone and action and the quartersawn maple neck got me interested.
The 400.00 that I still had from not getting a refinish bought me this: Image
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It has active electronics (EMG's) and my GK has only one input. So with the 250.00 that I still had from doing my own pickup install, bought me this: Image
This Acoustic has a passive and active input.
It has a unique feature on the back panel, a volume knob for the direct out: Image
I direct out into my GK and dial them in until they sound alike. Acoustic head on Sunn 2/15" bottom, into Gallien Krueger head on Peavey 2/15" bottom. Earth shaking.

I'm waiting for pickups still, I'll update.

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:50 am
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Hi SBLS: nice pix, thanks.

I'm curious about this detail:

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Is that neck one piece of wood or is the headstock a separate piece scarfed on behind the first fret? Probably the latter I expect - can you confirm? Either way is good, I'm just interested.

Nice way to go with the flag decal on the Fender, BTW. I must admit, I'm just itching to grab an X-Acto and tidy up round the edges. If you haven't already done that can I beg you to, please? :)

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:10 am
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Ceri wrote:
"Is that neck one piece of wood or is the headstock a separate piece scarfed on behind the first fret? Probably the latter I expect - can you confirm? Either way is good, I'm just interested."

It is blended almost perfectly, as I am looking up close it almost seems like one piece, just a change in the grain pattern.
The change starts in the middle of the second fret, I'm thinking the separate headstock piece starts there.
It was a surprise, I've had my eye on the Fender Jazz V and the Epiphone Thunderbird V for years and the Jackson over shadowed. The neck is fast and has a compound radius, the EMG's are a whole different level: Image

John over at PYOG said the same ex-acto thing :lol:
I left it a little sloppy around the edges and got all Picasso on the body's otherside. Having some fun. The Dimarzio "Split-P" blade style humbuckers make this bass sound like it's own big brother. And I wired them myself, with these I can boost the lows and the treble rolls off incredibly.

One other thing, I now realize that I ordered the pickups that I didn't want and now have to change the order. I have some more waiting to do 8)

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:46 am
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It's a mean looking machine, that's for sure! 8)

Dunno why, but I like the Jackson headstock much better on a bass than on a guitar. Way to go, SBLS! :D

Cheers - C

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:49 pm
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Ceri wrote:
Hi SBLS: nice pix, thanks.

I'm curious about this detail:

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Is that neck one piece of wood or is the headstock a separate piece scarfed on behind the first fret? Probably the latter I expect - can you confirm? Either way is good, I'm just interested.

Nice way to go with the flag decal on the Fender, BTW. I must admit, I'm just itching to grab an X-Acto and tidy up round the edges. If you haven't already done that can I beg you to, please? :)

Cheers - C
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"The scarf joint (arrow above) is where the maple headstock
attaches to to the neck just behind frets 1-3. The separate
headstock allows for a much stronger neck."
I'm not sure about that last part, I read "less wood on the floor allowance".
I really do like this necks profile though and hope that neck design is as flawless as it looks.
Ceri, I would X-acto those edges but have a small steadiness issue and don't want to carve up the local scenery with the potential damage to any innocent pedestrians in the area while holding a precision cutting instrument for any length of time. Until I can come visit you, those edges will have to remain, albeit safely, untrimmed. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:45 am
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Ah-ha, yep, there's the joint. Good photo, thanks.

It's done to make the "corner" between the neck and the headstock stronger. As we know, that spot is notoriously weak on Gibsons and other similar models: on your guitar the grain of the wood effectively follows the shape through and into the peghead, which must certainly be stronger.

It also means the neck with its angled back headstock doesn't have to be made from such a big blank of wood as would be necessary if it was carved from a single piece - "less wood on the floor", as you said. Which saves timber and money. It's a perfectly respectable way to make a guitar, used by many of the finest manufacturers.

Interesting thing about that scarf joint. As we know, Gibson headstocks often crack or break off entirely when they take a bump:

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It is sometimes believed that a well repaired Gibson peghead is actually stronger than it was before the damage, and Ed Roman used to say that all Gibsons should have their headstocks broken and reglued before leaving the factory. Which is a bit extreme but typically Ed.

Effectively, that is exactly what has been done with your Jackson. The scarf joint is like a glued break. So by Ed's logic it should now be super-strong! That's nice to know. :D


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Until I can come visit you, those edges will have to remain, albeit safely, untrimmed.

Rollie, make that visit anytime you like. I think I can safely promise there's a few other Forum users who wouldn't pass up the the chance to meet a Forum legend and would be delighted to come along too. We'll make it a nice family party and show you a good time! Don't be a stranger. 8)

Cheers - C

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:23 pm
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You are the best Ceri, thank you! :D 8)

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:14 am
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I brought the P-bass body and new neck to the tech yesterday and he said about 2 weeks and it should be ready, then GC called today and said one of my pickups came in:
"Antiquity for P-Bass®: raised "A" (twin coil) / 11044-12
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Like the originals, I use .625" magnets on the "A" string for better string balance. The two bobbins are reverse wound, reverse polarity to make the pickup humbucking. The pickups are hand fabricated and wound using traditional techniques and use classic "push back" cloth braid hookup wire. Each pickup comes with black aged covers, schematics and mounting screws."
Getting closer.

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:38 am
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a pic before installation: Image

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 10:34 pm
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It took longer than I planned and it had a couple of issues but for now I'm happy the neck was put on properly and it is back together : Image Image

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:29 am
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Appetite whetted, waiting to find out how you like that Antiquity, SBLS. We're watching...

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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:38 pm
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Ceri, the Antiquity for P-Bass®: raised "A" (twin coil) / 11044-12 is a great sounding passive pickup. The raised A magnets really do balance out the strings sound and the 500k pots combined with the .05 capacitor boost the low's remarkably by allowing the high's to be rolled off with an accuracy that I haven't heard until now. This pick-up gives a bass guitar player incredible tone options. I don't have an audio sample yet but I'm working on getting one up, lol.

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:37 pm
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no sound sample yet but I just ordered Jimmy Vaugham Tex-Mex Strat pickups for my drummers Strat. I'll get before and after pic's up asap. :D

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Post subject: Re: Is a paint over possible?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:37 pm
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no sound sample yet but I just ordered Jimmy Vaugham Tex-Mex Strat pickups for my drummers Strat. I'll get before and after pic's up asap. :D


Ordered Pots yesterday, picked up capacitor and 1/4 jack and strings, backplate, saddles and 5 way switch at Guitar center. I was trying to save a couple diniro's, I forgot and have to remember not to do that again, no need to explain, it happens to everyone sooner or later. Just waiting for the ordered stuff, then pic's. :D

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