When are they going to make this edition the Pre-CBS 65 with dot inlays and white bound neck. This to me is the absolute most unique and was only produced for 2 years with dot inlays and bound neck. The difference with the 66 is the dot inlays went to block inlays with the binding and then no binding and back to dot inlays. So for about 1 and a half years they made the dot inlays with the white bound neck. Fender Japan has it currently, but their quality of the Jag was not up to par for me especially comparing an American to Japan Jag. Fender, Please make this an option and please make this pre-CBS vintage Jaguar with the dot inlays and the white bound neck.

Look last time you sent me to the Custom shop and that is just ridiculous. You know why? I asked them take your 62 reissue and take a Jag neck like from the Kurt Cobain guitar which is modeling a 65 Jag with the dot inlays and binding and put it on the brand new 62 reissue. How much? $5000. Ridiculous. So now I wait. They got so close with the Kurt guitar, but I dont want to buy one where a couple of guys went out into the parking lot and played toss with it for a while. I want a clean brand new one. Now the 50th anniversary edition comes out with the bound neck, yay!!! Oh darn only with block inlays and in weird colors. Okay still waiting. If anyone else thinks this would be awesome for them to make the pre-cbs 1965 white binding with dot inlays in at least a three tone sunburst let us know in this forum or contact them. Heres some pics of what Im talking about.

Here is your 1965 Fender Jaguar. The best yet in my opinion.

MY 65 Jag has dot inlays and an unbound neck,I can't recall seeing any pre CBS Jags with block inlays and a bound neck but then again I haven't seen them all.

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You are a lucky man to have that guitar. You are absolutely right. If Im not mistaken the first bound neck was introduced on the 65 Jag first with dot inlays and then block inlays. Of course they had an option not to have the bound neck such as yours, but in 65 and a short time in 66 was the only time that you could get the bound neck with the dot inlays making it at least for me the most unique and coolest looking style. Then the company changed and this was a forgotten beautiful piece of work until now when they just came out with the Kurt Cobain reissue guitar. Of course his was a 65 or early 66 which does have the dot inlays and the binding, but he made many modifications to it which Im not entirely a fan of. Now this would be the Jag I would jump on and buy, but I hate the fact that I have to pay brand new prices for a gimmick, plus to know that a couple of kids were tossing it around in the parking lot before assembly. Fender is getting closer, but just make a brand new one in mint condition would ya Fender?

If anyone else is interested in this, let it be heard and share your thoughts. Of course Fender is looking at the market and demand. So lets put aside the 62 reissue and make a 65 dot inlay bound neck for a little while. What do you all think?

Any word on this anybody?

There were precisely four days within 1965 in which a new Fender product might've been produced that would be considered "pre-CBS" (January 1st through the 4th, inclusive) -- thus you may discard the notion that a "1965 Pre CBS Fender Jaguar with bound Neck" ever existed.

The block position markers and fretboard binding on the Jaguar, Jazzmaster, Jazz Bass, and Bass VI were CBS developments which were incrementally implemented beginning in the spring of 1965. The binding appeared first, which accounts for a number of necks that combined it with the older dot markers. The dots were upgraded to block markers in the late summer or early autumn of 1965 and by year's end, all of these instruments had transitioned to the block-and-binding fretboard. I have the color catalogs from 1964-65, 1965-66, and 1966-67 and no mention is made of these features being "optional". The only special order shown in the catalogs (aside from the Duco custom colors, different neck widths at the nut, and left-handed configuration) was for gold hardware and that option was discontinued at the beginning of 1967.

Arjay

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Thats some good information. I guess I was confused by the pre-CBS neck and head stock being different and this combo usually having the binding and dot inlays with the title "Pre-CBS." Thanks for the correction and great info. But I have seen Jag necks with the date stamp 65 marking on it without any binding hence it must be an early 65 neck like you said that didn't have binding yet? Im beginning to realize the binding and dot legacy lived shorter than I originally thought.

This link shows evidence of dot inlays and bound necks were still being produced in the first months of 66. http://www.fenderjazzmaster.org/932/196 ... neck-body/ . Thats confusing though. If Block inlays were introduced why are there still some dot inlays? Could I choose between dots or blocks? Or like you were saying dots with binding were mid 65 into early 66 and then immediately after early 66 blocks took over. That seems to be what I am finding too. Although I am seeing dot inlays and binding even into April 66. So did block inlays start shortly after dots and this was an option for a very short time until dot inlays were all sold?

So when exactly was the last month in 66 that a dot inlay and binding combo was used? It also seems that there are about 50/50 1966 dot or block versions just from a google search.

This just makes my point of being one of the most unique and shortest lived combinations though. It was shorter than I thought. Maybe 6 months in 65 and 4 or 5 month in 66 due to the block inlay take over in mid 66. Thats crazy and very unique. You were right about the pre-CBS though and I corrected that. Thanks

I am very curious to know the first and last date of dot inlay and binding combo. What is the very last or latest date stamp on a Jag bound neck with dot inlays.

I would just love to see pictures of the Jags in that catalog if you can scan them and post. That would be pretty awesome to see. Thanks. By the way, does CBS still own Fender or what happened after the big switch?

Leo never discarded anything that was commercially usable -- a practice continued under CBS's stewardship of Fender. Thus it's likely that small stocks of these necks continued to be discovered in the warehouse and were used until the supply was ultimately exhausted. Documented examples of guitars with out-dated headstock decals and amps with incorrect tube charts continue to surface and are a good example of this.

As an aside, binding was to be added to the Stratocaster in 1966 as well (no blocks) and that year's catalog does provide photographic validation. However, only a handful of these guitars were actually produced and in my 45+ years of owning and playing Fender products I've only personally seen two. Within the last six years or so, I saw two for sale on Ebay (one in 3TSB, the other in Oly White). The still-born Marauder also was to have had the bound fretboard, with block markers.

The trivia continues to fascinate......



Arjay

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