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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:23 pm
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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:

What the f*** are these? How ignorant and closed-minded. :?



So basically anything that isn't 40 year old hard rock isn't real music to you?


I agree, very childish, ... that's my opinion...

All I can say is grow up...

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:29 pm
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CajunBlues wrote:
Floyd_The_Barber wrote:

What the f*** are these? How ignorant and closed-minded. :?



So basically anything that isn't 40 year old hard rock isn't real music to you?


I agree, very childish, ... that's my opinion...

All I can say is grow up...

All I can say is SK is a kid like me and other member so don't go too rough on him he is very respected member of this forum.


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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:34 pm
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SKcoppertele wrote:
first of all.I said synths,not computers. :roll: second of all personally,when I listen to rap all I hear is one note rhyming to so called "music".third,amps are not computers unless you are talking about modeling amp (I am a proud owner of one).


How is an amp not a computer? Also, synths are computer generated sound. My friend has a syth, and some other weird stuff to go with it. i think he said it was a MIDI controller or whatever. I didn't pay much attention, because syths don't interest me. Also, keyboards are computers.

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:51 pm
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telemaster000 wrote:
CajunBlues wrote:
Floyd_The_Barber wrote:

What the f*** are these? How ignorant and closed-minded. :?



So basically anything that isn't 40 year old hard rock isn't real music to you?


I agree, very childish, ... that's my opinion...

All I can say is grow up...

All I can say is SK is a kid like me and other member so don't go too rough on him he is very respected member of this forum.

I'm a kid too, I'm 15. And I don't limit myself to one type of music.

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
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SKcoppertele wrote:
yes I understand.but (once again) 1st of all amps are analog.not digital.so no,they are not computers.what do they compute? nothing! they take an electric signal and amplify it! 2nd of all, computer is a general term.synths on the other hand,is a specific type of computer.synth does not equal guitar pedal.synth equals synthesizer.a MIDI interface is a Musical Instrument Digital Interface.thats what I use for my drums because I don't own a set.that is also what I use for all my keys.my keyboard is the controller and my program is the interface.anything else you would like to learn while I'm at it??? :twisted:

They compute the signal.

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:55 pm
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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
SKcoppertele wrote:
yes I understand.but (once again) 1st of all amps are analog.not digital.so no,they are not computers.what do they compute? nothing! they take an electric signal and amplify it! 2nd of all, computer is a general term.synths on the other hand,is a specific type of computer.synth does not equal guitar pedal.synth equals synthesizer.a MIDI interface is a Musical Instrument Digital Interface.thats what I use for my drums because I don't own a set.that is also what I use for all my keys.my keyboard is the controller and my program is the interface.anything else you would like to learn while I'm at it??? :twisted:

They compute the signal.



that was exactly what I was going to say

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:59 pm
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A computer is a programmable machine designed to automatically carry out a sequence of arithmetic or logical operations.


so in other words.no an amp is not a computer. :roll:


Notice how each amp has a different tone. They were programmed to have that tone, you just can't re program it. If they weren't programmed with a set of possible tones (different combinations with the knob settings and channel settings) they wouldn't have a tone in the first place. An abacus is considered a computer, a non electric one with only one task, which is to add and subtract, nothing more. You can't program an abacus to do anything more.

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:00 pm
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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
I'm a kid too, I'm 15. And I don't limit myself to one type of music.


I thought you were much older.

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:02 pm
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Amps have numbers. You have to know basic math to control an amp. If you don't know how to count from 1-10 (sometimes 11), then you probably shouldn't have an amp in the first place.

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:08 pm
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SKcoppertele wrote:
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arithmetic or logical operations.
I'll tell you when my amp starts counting to me. :roll:


And a computer doesn't count for you. You have to know how to control it to do the method in question. Basically, the computer is an extension of the human mind. Each computer is set up by the person. The computer has their preferences, and things that interest them on it. Your amp is an extension of your mind. You have a favorite setting, as does everyone who has ever played an electric guitar. Everyone has a tone in mind, that tone being what you think of when you hear the word "guitar". Basically, you set the amp up the same way you would set up a computer, your preferences and all. Without this capability, computers and amps would all be the same, and all be useless.

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:13 pm
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lol, k.


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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:18 pm
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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:05 am
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SKcoppertele wrote:
this argument has gotten out of control.you just won't admit defeat.welcome to my foe list. :twisted:


You know it's really unhealthy to talk to yourself like that.


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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:50 am
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SKcoppertele wrote:

a good musician doesn't name the band after them selves.


I dunno, the front man for the Jimi Hendrix Experience was a pretty good musician.

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a good musician doesn't have a backing band they are the backing band.


Are you saying that Eric Clapton, Chuck Berry, Albert King, BB King, Joe Bonamassa and thousands of over musicians aren't very good?

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Post subject: Re: Nothing Remotely Resembling Music Here : (
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:20 am
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Unless an amp is digital, it is not a computer.

Yes, an analog amp (tube, solid state or otherwise) does process an electronic signal, but it is an electronic device. Changing components (tubes, transistors, transformers) doesn't "program" it, it just changes the way the signal is processed. The same goes for analog effects.

A digital amp (or effect) could be rightly called a computer, due to the presence of emulation software that can be changed (either through chip changes like the early POD units or by downloads like the current Fender Mustang amps). Likewise, the presence of changeable/replaceable/programmable software on certain digital effects pedals makes it possible to label them as a "computer"...the abacus analogy is interesting but flawed, in the sense of what most techies would consider to be a "computer"; it's no longer just a counting machine.

How about this analogy: 
An analog amp is like a rotary telephone. Dialing a certain sequences of numbers would allow you to reach other specific devices. It is an electronic device processing an electronic signal, and that's all it does.

A digital amp, however, is like an iPhone; it can be programmed (through apps on an iPhone or profiles on a digital amp) to create certain outputs or perform certain functions. It's still using the same basic hardware and same basic components (pre-programmed chips aside), but it can be programmed to process the signal in a manner that an analog amp could not.

All of you need to chill out and allow someone else to have  their opinion.

I think SuperKid meant to show the difference between a "Pop Star" and a "Musician"...his definition was a inaccurate (due to many solo artists being musicians) but I got his point...I noticed that all of you attacked him on his opinion only after he got frustrated in the amp vs computer debacle.

Earnest, welcome to the Forum. It's interesting that after making a very few obtuse comments you're comfortable enough to criticize the members. Be cool, and be nice.

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