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Post subject: Re: Vox: Are Any Of Their Amp's Made In The UK Anymore?
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:26 pm
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To me this is part of the problem with the attitude of so many people at the moment. Times are hard and regardless of whether you're happy or don't want to retrain, sometimes you have to. Too many people think they deserve to have a job where they get to do whatever they want getting paid £100,000+ a year. That's not the way it is and it's not the way its ever been.

Not if you have some money in the bank to fall back on you don't :lol:

But anyway where do you get that £100,000 crap from? is that just an arbitrary figure you pulled out of thin air or do you have some evidence to back that up? where i live no one earns anywhere near that, no one. You're saying that people expect to get a wage like that that's absurd. You're trying to make headlines with that claim.


Yes obviously its an exaggeration I thought thats fairly simple to understand given that it's a high amount of money that a very small amount of people actually earn, but the point remains. The point being that too many people expect to earn a wage far higher than their job economically deserves whilst doing little to no work or putting in little effort to achieve it.

People expect far too much for nothing, too many think they should just sit on their $@! and get everything they want for doing sweet FA.

Of course I know a lot of people here are smarter than that and I certainly am not pointing the finger at anyone here.


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Post subject: Re: Vox: Are Any Of Their Amp's Made In The UK Anymore?
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:17 pm
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Just a little history that might clarify the reasoning for all this. In the 80s and 90s, cash rich guys named corporate raiders bought profitable companies in the US. They did not keep them as an investment, they gutted them of all cash, including retirees pensions, and shut them down. This same greed, with no thought of the workers, is apparent with shutting down profitable companies in the US, and moving them out of the country so they can make more profit. These people think nothing of their country or of it's people. It's not even about money. It is just greed.


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Post subject: Re: Vox: Are Any Of Their Amp's Made In The UK Anymore?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:29 am
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Think the thing that irk's the average guy is why China, you know what I mean, we were fed all the communist bogey man for as long as I can remember and now it seems they couldn't beat a path there quick enough, I know we've always had the bottom of the rung stuff imported mostly but just lately it seems as though companies are almost being pushed in that direction, are we so heavily in debt to china that they call the tune these days and is our own goverment actively promoting it all, seems odd to me that hands are now rubbed together to help them out


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Post subject: Re: Vox: Are Any Of Their Amp's Made In The UK Anymore?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:50 am
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Think the thing that irk's the average guy is why China, you know what I mean, we were fed all the communist bogey man for as long as I can remember and now it seems they couldn't beat a path there quick enough, I know we've always had the bottom of the rung stuff imported mostly but just lately it seems as though companies are almost being pushed in that direction, are we so heavily in debt to china that they call the tune these days and is our own goverment actively promoting it all, seems odd to me that hands are now rubbed together to help them out

Nice post and pertinent points. In relation to the points you raise yes western companies are breaking their necks to relocate all their work to China because they can get it done dirt cheap, for now. But we'll see if that holds up in the future.

Remember also, and this is something western governments have conveniently ignored, because it suits their pockets, this is a regime that brutalised a bunch of protesting students in Tianaman Square. Now that that's in the not so dim and distant path, greedy companies can now forget all about the human rights violations that go on there, in their ever growing appetite for cheap labour. All the while detracting from the job markets in the US and the UK when companies pull the plug and move there.

Yes they all slate the Communist idea but a few weeks ago the EU, in the dire straits it's in, were pleading to China for money to ease the debt crisis! remember that? All the violations forgotten about because the balance of power is shifting and they hold the purse strings.

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Post subject: Re: Vox: Are Any Of Their Amp's Made In The UK Anymore?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:07 am
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It's going to take another 25 years before the Chinese will have human rights and labour unions. Until then, our economy will go down the drain. In 25 years, production will move to some other region in the world where labour is cheap and people can be exploited easily. This is the age of globalization.

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Post subject: Re: Vox: Are Any Of Their Amp's Made In The UK Anymore?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:40 pm
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i dont like the fact that my AC30 is made in china but it sounds great


its all about how much money a company is willing to spend to get its build quality to be relatively good


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Post subject: Re: Vox: Are Any Of Their Amp's Made In The UK Anymore?
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:44 am
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Why not build your own AC-30 from a commercial kit?


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