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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:55 pm
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Please, humor me. Try Steve Brand's technique! Tell me what you think!

The technique produces the same exact amount of wind each time, two on the bass strings, under 3 on the unwound strings, and the string starts off taught instead of loose so there's no twisting and binding and backlash if you thread the string gracefully!

...the Martin guy, well...okay. But still, to be safe, especially on older and, or rare guitars, I always take the strings off from the outside in, one side to the other, starting off with the bass string so as not to shock a guitar, a guitar that may have been sitting in a corner collecting sun and dust or next to a heater, dehydrated and brittle for decades.

I've tried a bunch of restring methods, this one wins, hands' down! The trade off? You have to unlock and unwrap the string to get it off the peg hole, it won't just pull out until you can develop the technique to unlock and unwrap it with one hand without stabbing yourself with the string end that's stuck in there good, that's why it works the best, it's securing the string without tying a knot, the knot introducing a hint of play. It seems like a reverse, no-bind, slip-knot through the peg hole! 8)


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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:11 am
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Tie your strings :?:

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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:39 am
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What do you guys mean by tieing the strings?

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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:32 am
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Voodoo Blues wrote:
What do you guys mean by tieing the strings?


Outright half-knotting the string through the eye of, and around the peghead or under/over/under winding of the string's first three revolutions around the peg head.

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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:51 am
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That's the way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVeeYkgs1es

First turn above, all next turns below.

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But I do wind with one wrap on top of the string in the hole, and the rest wrapping below down the peg. It works great and makes sort of a pinch effect on the string wrap and stays in tune, no matter what I do to my strat!


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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:30 am
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I wish I had a dollar for every guitar that I was given to do work on that the owner had tied off the strings because he didn`t know how to properly wind them to keep them from slipping.It's slow and tedious work trying to get a string untied and takes a good deal of time with needle nose pliers and a poultry skewer(that's what I found works best)to get them undone.

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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:11 pm
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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:17 pm
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guitslinger wrote
I wish I had a dollar for every guitar that I was given to do work on that the owner had tied off the strings because he didn`t know how to properly wind them to keep them from slipping.It's slow and tedious work trying to get a string untied and takes a good deal of time with needle nose pliers and a poultry skewer(that's what I found works best)to get them undone.

your not far wrong there mate , and then when you hand them the guitar back , they look at the windings , and then at you , then back to the windings and back to you and say you havent tied the strings :lol: , i've seen the film a few times , then after a week or so you get a call or bump into the person and they say the tuning is more stable than ever 8) it's a good feeling , cheers
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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:35 pm
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RCB-CA-USA wrote:
Please, humor me. Try Steve Brand's technique! Tell me what you think!

The technique produces the same exact amount of wind each time, two on the bass strings, under 3 on the unwound strings, and the string starts off taught instead of loose so there's no twisting and binding and backlash if you thread the string gracefully!

...the Martin guy, well...okay. But still, to be safe, especially on older and, or rare guitars, I always take the strings off from the outside in, one side to the other, starting off with the bass string so as not to shock a guitar, a guitar that may have been sitting in a corner collecting sun and dust or next to a heater, dehydrated and brittle for decades.

I've tried a bunch of restring methods, this one wins, hands' down! The trade off? You have to unlock and unwrap the string to get it off the peg hole, it won't just pull out until you can develop the technique to unlock and unwrap it with one hand without stabbing yourself with the string end that's stuck in there good, that's why it works the best, it's securing the string without tying a knot, the knot introducing a hint of play. It seems like a reverse, no-bind, slip-knot through the peg hole! 8)


Never heard of shocking a guitar by taking all the strings off in any particular order. I look at it this way. Martin had been around along time. They built mine and I trust them. If I leave my acoustic guitar out by a heater etc, and neglected it, I'd deserve everything I got. :lol: The Martin and D'Angelico sites, both describe the same method. If it works for me, I'm happy. if it ain't broke, why fix it. Some people I'm sure would benefit form Steve's technique. The fact is, if you have tuning problems, check the string winding technique. I see so many guitars with tons of string wrapped around the peg. It's pretty funny.

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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:50 am
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Yes I tie. Have done it for years.

Neat, tidy, and just the ticket if you're a trem user. Just like having a locking tuner as far as I'm concerned.

Makes changing the strings afterwards a little bit fiddly I admit. And on some Strats with a marginal string break angle over the nut, you do have to add extra winds to get down to the bottom of the post, but I'm used to it now.

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Post subject: Re: Do you tie your strings
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:19 am
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S Bender wrote:
There's no reason to tie them if they are wrapped around the tuner pegs properly. :?

That was what I though when I read the first post.
Wrap them right--if you tie them it can lead to other issues as stated in other posts--so count me in the no tie group.

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