Hi man:

Don't worry, it's been a surprisingly fun thread and I believe we all wish you very well in your adventure. Be good.

And if you can't be good, be careful.

Good luck - C

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Haha, I enjoy this thread as well. I also enjoyed that last joke. Great advice though.

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@Ceri "you are most definitely using the word love to mean something different than most of us" that's because most people have never been "in love" or they'd recognise the symptoms... there is a snobbery when it comes to "love" most people say they are in love and are really not because they are expected to. most men feel guilty around romance because they feel they have to lie and men generally are not open to the idea of love at all, they think it's silly, childish and weak. you have to open to fall in love and men are generally not an open book!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovestruck
"Historically, being lovestruck has been viewed as a short-lived mental illness"

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 057AAQHQ9e
this got me.
"according to research when you are in love your brain produces the same chemicals that obsessive compulsive peoples brains do. Strange. If you are still infaturatated after two years you are in love."
it may do well to understand i do suffer from ocd!

nuff said!!!

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The fact that you suffer from OCD may be contributing to the fact that you are still talking about INFATUATION and not LOVE, and the fact that you won't back down even though you're wrong.

Lovestruck equals infatuation, but does not equal love.

Case in point: When I was a young lad, I found Jaclyn Smith (of Charlie's Angels fame) drop-dead gorgeous...actually, I still find her that way, but I digress.
The fact that I was infatuated with her--found her enchanting in every way--doesn't mean that I love her. The same example can be applied to many other attractive women and girls I've met, seen or encountered in my lifetime.
Attracted? Lovestruck? Infatuated? Yes!
Actual long-term LOVE? No, not at all. It was all chemical, and that's it.

At the outset of my acquaintance with the future Lady Armadillo, I was lovestruck, infatuated and attracted to her. Had I never actually got to know her (as a person), the attraction would have remained solely that--a chemical/physical response to an attractive girl. Years later, I actually got to know her personality, her likes and dislikes, and her way of thinking. AT THAT TIME, after learning those things about her, I actually grew to love her.

I'm still attracted to her (physically) and she still makes my heart go a-flutter, but that is coincidental. Even at the times when there is/was no "thunderbolt" (due to illness, circumstances or unforeseen occurrences on either of our parts), I still love her, because it's beyond the physical (*insert cartoon sound effect "BOING" here*) and gone into the actual realm of emotion.

Infatuation and lust causes women to become pregnant. Love causes the man to hold her hair while she's puking when that pregnancy causes morning sickness. You love her, even though she's doing something unattractive and gross.

When Lady Armadillo had (unfortunately) become deathly ill several years ago (misdiagnosed gynecological problem that blocked off her intestines and caused her to lose weight; she got down to 75 pounds at one point, and everyone was afraid she would die), thoughts of butterflies and roses were the last thing on my mind...not because she wasn't looking or sounding her best, but because I thought I might lose her. However, I had never felt so tenderly, compassionately attached to her before that period of our lives.

She has recovered about 90%; she looks and acts much as she did before, and the "thunderbolt" strikes much more for us than it did during that time, but it's somehow better than before her illness--I realize how much she means to me. That appreciation is much closer to love than the hormonal reactions you're describing.

You're wrong, Prolife. You're describing infatuation, lust or just plain h*rniness.

Let it go.

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to be honest, I'm open to the idea of love. I'm pretty sure a lot of the guys here are too.

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I really wanted to wait until most members weighed in on this thread but reading through posts and noticing the derail affect in place it is perhaps an opportunity to drop the other shoe so to speak. The older members know what love is or at least understand that love is what it is. The younger members might want to brush up on "emotion" so here is a wiki link chock-full of authors and theorists, if they have time to devote to learning:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion

wiki has also provided this brief description which categorizes love as a virtue and that is true as well:
"Love is an emotion of strong affection and personal attachment.[1] Love is also a virtue representing all of human kindness, compassion, and affection; and "the unselfish loyal and benevolent concern for the good of another""

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

Hi again prolife: not a word of that seems to apply to most of the men on this thread. Especially this one:



That's a fair chunk of the thing summed up in a tidy nutshell.

There's a goodly proportion of articulate, emotionally connected men on this thread, by the looks of it. Which is nice!

Cheers - C

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I'm emotionally connected. I cried at the end of Toy Story 3.

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Me, too.

But then again, I cried at the end of "The Dirty Dozen", so maybe that's a bad example...

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I got so into Cool Hand Luke, that I started a boxing match in the middle of school.

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I'm so emotionally connected I cried at the beginning of Toy Story, and then all the way through. When the second and third films came out they wouldn't even let me in the cinema because I was setting everyone else off.

- C

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@Screamin' Armadillo

here is your original reply:
"This is not an explanation or description of love.
This is a description of "infatuation."
BIG difference."

you need to explain the difference. i don't think you can... it leads you to the same argument. by your definition i love the whole world but i am not "in love with" the whole world.

take another look here and see how the rest of the world describe it.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 057AAQHQ9e
these are what people say "being in love is..." long term "love" is what we all have anyway! this is nothing more than "care and concern." this "being in love with" is more than that.

i have had a lifetime affection for a particular celebrity. i have thought about prayed for fantasied about being with i have never been able to get her out of my mind and everything she does i'm interested in. to me she is my miss world... infatuation? in all that time i would have said i was not in love with her till this year when the exact same feelings swept across me that i have experienced with every girl i felt i was in love with. infatuated with them? some i did not even like but it's the exact same feeling. now recognise the idea of cupid who strikes an unwitting person with an arrow... it is not always someone you care in the beginning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTF3ggSaUGI

if there was a "love drug" what would it do to you? i'll give you a clue on top of "caring" you'd be having the same feelings posted as above. for me i'm almost woozy to the point of feeling weak faint and breathless... listen to this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBk5vMti6r8

"When I'm with you
I shake inside
My heart's all tangled up
My tongue is tied it's crazy

Can't walk, can't talk, can't eat, can't sleep
Oh, I'm in love, oh I'm in deep ''cause baby

With a kiss you can strip me defenseless
With a touch I completely lose control
'Til all that's left of my strength is a memory, wo...

I get weak when I look at you
Weak when we touch
I can't speak when I look in your eyes
I get weak when you're next to me
Weak from this love
I can't speak when I look in your eyes
I get weak

Convincing eyes, persuasive lips
The helpless heart just can't resist their power
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/belinda+ca ... 16288.html ]
You know you've got a hold over me
You know you've got me where I want to be ''cause lover

Like a wave you keep pulling me under
How I'll ever get out of this I don't know
I just know there's just no way to fight it, wo...

I get weak when I look at you
Weak when we touch
I can't speak when I look in your eyes
I get weak when you're next to me
Weak from this love
I'm in deep when I look in your eyes
I get weak I get weak I get weak

Just a kiss you can strip me defenseless
Just a touch I completely lose control
'Til all that's left of my strength is a memory, wo...

I get weak when I look at you
Weak when we touch
I can't speak when I look in your eyes
I get weak when you're next to me
Weak from this love
I'm in deep when I look in your eyes
I get weak I get weak I get weak."

ask your gf what the above lyrics describe... this is love.

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