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Post subject: Re: pickups
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:34 am
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must admit to being intrigued myself as well now! I googled `the ludnuts jake` and came up with this http://www.facebook.com/theludnuts but im at work right now and facebook is blocked here so i cant actually go to the site. 

I’m hesitant to get into any kind of argumentative posting with jake here because i think, although he is perhaps being overly judgemental and opinionated with his views, and some of what he said is questionable to say the least (well, from what I can still see of his posts anyway!) i have some sympathy with his views. I use pro recording studio’s regularly and believe there is a good reason why they work the way most of them do (carefully layering up individually recorded components of a song to get the best possible quality). BUT, i personally way prefer a band that sounds good naturally being recorded in as live a way as possible. More of a `warts and all` approach. However, if you are remotely heavy or noisy as a band, you’d have to do pretty well to get any kind of mainstream attention from such a recording. 

Where i think i would stray from what i am perceiving as jakes `punk` ethics though is that i often find myself aiming to recreate this effect through studio wizardry. For example i like it when guitar solo’s in single guitar bands (recent example springing to mind would be black country communion) don’t have a rhythm guitar line recorded behind them, as i love the more realistic live effect of the chords coming crashing back in when the guitarist finishes his solo (as well as getting to hear the bass/keys and general airy space behind the solo itself). I like vocal ad-libs, room noise, the sound of the drummer grunting coming through the hi-hat mic`s a bit! All that kind of stuff! John Bonhams bass drum pedal squeaking through lots of the electric tracks on led zep 3! i think you can have these characterful elements retained in a song and still have a pro sounding recording, but rarely through the full bands natural live recording approach. I might have completely misconstrued what Jake meant here, so sorry if i have there Jake! 

To summarize, i way prefer in utero`s recorded sound to the sound of nevermind. but still know darn well the amount of studio work that went into creating the in utero sound. If it was completely realistic it would just sound like nirvana did live, which i never found nearly as impressive. Ooh, straying on to a different topic here! I loved nirvana live, but their sound was often awful. Talking of different topics..... this post was originally about pickups yeah? Eep. Sorry  :D



If you think "Nirvana's" "In Utero" is good, listen to "Incesticide" or "Sliver the best of the box" ..... "Sliver the best of the box" is my idea of great music and REAL music, because I love the rawness of it. Part of it was home demos and solo stuff. I personally think that "Nirvana's" "Heartbreaker" was way better than "Led Zeppelin's" original. Led Zeppelin is a really great awesome band though don't get me wrong. Both Led Zeppelin and Nirvana were influenced by Huey Ledbetter or "Lead Belly". Led Zeppelin were influenced more on the blues side though. I also love "Lead belly's" music to death! It rocks so hard even though its real old and stuff he sang about what needed to be sung about. The man really had a hard life, Being hated for being black, beat, in jail and wrongly accused, being poor and that stuff. Farmers and cotton picking folks of the south often sang the folk music like that and still do although a lot has changed. He made the best of it by doing what he knew best playing the guitar and singing. My point is, that whatever type of music you sing and preform from Religious to Death Metal, it all has these certain roots and origin that is comes from. Sorta like musical ancestery. I base my music primarly from the 90's grunge/alternative that I grew up with, classic rock (parents listened to it too), punk rock, and some older metal. I was influenced by the 90's alternative stuff so I picked up the guitar a 6 when I got one for my birthday. I basically learned to play up until this point where I still play today. I started writting songs when I was in school, I wrote about my childhood experances, problems I have in life, bi-polor, drugs, depression, adhd, being alone, being different than everyone around me, being treated unequal, being bi, personal life experances, hardships, friend's deaths (I even had a friend die right after he helped me write a song). I actually noticed that my music sounded like Nirvana when my own lyrics and sound began to take form. Just because I'm majorly influenced by Kurt Cobain and Nirvana doesn't mean I copy him. Some of my songs sound like the Ramones sometimes and Green Day (before they were mainstream). I am also from the south and have a country accent so I call my music "southern grunge" just as there is a southern rock. So really all music has something in it, but it also what you put in it as well. I myself prefer the music that speaks to me and can relate my life from. Music just speaks to others in different ways is all. Last but not least, R.I.P Huey Ledbetter, Aka The Twelve string king.

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Post subject: Re: pickups
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:55 am
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TheLudNuts wrote:
 Well excuse me...Really, what u want from me? I'm my own man, Nothing else.

A readable, coherent post that is respectful and polite to others on the board, as well as respectful to other artists (including the mainstream "fakers and frauds" you rail against).

...and being a "man", whether you are your "own man" or someone else's, has nothing to do with your posts.

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:00 pm
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Luggy, being a man is owning up to your own responsibilities, being honest, and not being afraid to ask for advice on the way. Being a man is also being 6 years old and knowing how to change brakes faster than the guys at Jiffy Lube :mrgreen: , but that's not the point. Just accept that people don't always agree or take you seriously or know what you're talking about. You'll be fine.

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