I have been married along time bro.I forgot what its like to date.I got lucky and have a woman that digs that I play guitar and harmonica (Music in general) Now....some women are not so cool in that department from my experience.So...before you even think about dating her,make sure she like music and is cool that you like to hang out with the boys and maybe do some jammin.If this is a no....run like hell. If it is a yes...your in .I than would ask her out on a date...you know maybe dinner ,walk on the beach, ice cream..something like that.The rest will just kind of fall in place if shes cool.

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1992 Fender Newporter - Acoustic
2000 Fender American Series Strat - Natural ash
2010 Fender Mustang 1
2011 Fender Blacktop Jazzmaster -Sunburst
2012 Fender Champion

Talk to her. period. Not a big deal. You don't have to be "good" with girls. They are people just like you are. There really isn't some huge mystery as you hear about. Start a conversation.....ask what bands she likes, does she like kittens, subject matter doesn't matter. Pick something and ask questions, then reply with your answers to the same question, etc. Go from there.


Remember this one thing: Nothing is as bad as it seems. If you screw this up, the future you will have something to look back at and smile. If you don't screw this up, the future you will have something to look back on and smile.

My 17 year old son is thought of as fearless by his friends because he'll talk to any girl anywhere.....when he's single. The reason for this is that I've always told him, what's she gonna say? No? Can a no really hurt you? Nope. If you don't have the nerve to talk to them, will hurt you though because you'll never know what could have been. The more you talk to, the easier it gets.

Good question if you're a 5 y/o. When you look at this thread in a couple of weeks you'll wish you deleted it. Save yourself little Bro.

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

I was once told to "Act like you belong".

And, um, don't start with "Do you like kittens?".

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just smile and say hello
I met my wife at this place out near me called Tanners Electronics. an attractive lady digging through scrap electronic parts just did it for me I was never good at this kind of thing but I didn't want to pass this one up because of fear. so I smiled said hello and offered my assistance, the rest just fell into place. all you can do is try man. it took me a while to understand it but like jackdragbean said, it wont kill you

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Depends on the metal. If it can't be found in a Hot Topic, marry her.

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1967 Kingston Acoustic

What everyone else said. When you get old and haggard most of the things you'll regret are the things you didn't do.

It has been a long time since I was single and in school. The only advise I can give is the same you have already heard. Just talk to her, say hi. Be yourself. Talk about school, music, the holidays, anything. Just don't over do it.

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2007 Fender Highway 1
2012 American Deluxe
2015 MIM Dave Murray HHH
2010 Fender Blacktop
1987 Fender Avalon Acoustic
2012 Marshall DSL 15 watt head

i am horrible with girls. kinda like ross geller here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY4hgAFdeoA , only more of a dork.

and here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhdwll4Z6X0

so my advice; dont take my advice

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When I was a kid, all the girls' parents loved me, because I was polite and didn't act like an idiot and didn't try to attack their daughters. Their fathers liked me because I was respectful and looked them straight in the eye, and their moms liked me because I was sincere. I was/am not a brown-noser or an "Eddie Haskell" (if you even know who he is), I was myself...and I ended up getting the most beautiful, faithful, loyal and interesting wife of all my friends (and I'm not just making that up...she doesn't ever read these posts, so I'm not saying this to make her happy).

Yeah, the "bad boys" often get the girls, but eventually those same girls will realize the "bad boys" are generally jerks, and you'll be remembered as the cool guy who treated them with respect.

If you're this insecure, that's actually cool, because that means you don't have expectations that you shouldn't have out of a teenage girl.

If this girl likes metal (which sounds like a cool thing to you), find out her favorite bands, talk about her, show her some music she didn't know about, talk about her, talk about school, talk about her, talk about guitars, talk about her, find out her favorite food/coffee/flower/dog/cat/whatever, go to a museum (really! You'll learn a lot about a person in a museum)...all the rest of the stuff will fall into place.

Also, don't rush into the physical contact aspect of the relationship, for two reasons:
(1) judging from your post, you're too young to be messing around, and she probably is too, and
(2) it can ruin a relationship, because that will end up what the whole relationship is about...and she won't think you're the cool dude who talks to her and shares music/art/conversation/whatever with her, she'll think you're just a guy who wants to mess around.

...and keep an open mind if she likes some cruddy bands you don't like*. Lady Armadillo likes some stuff I absolutely detest (Rick Springfield the Cure Kenny G )...but if we liked exactly the same stuff all the time, we'd get sick of one another and never have the chance to find common ground that we both liked.

...and by God, I feel sorry for the first little punk moron that tries to hit on my daughter. IF he gets past Lady Armadillo, he has fourteen layers of Mexican grampa, uncles, and cousins to fight through...then he'll get to the bollillo (honky, white, whatever) grampa, cousins and uncles...and then he'll get to ME...and I carry a knife (because I'm married to a Mexican girl...it's required by law).


*This does not apply to Justin Bieber. If she like him, just cut your losses and run.

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Mac, I've always been the exact same way. I was the shy kid in high school, never got much attention from the girls, (except one, I'll get back to that) and really wanted a girlfriend, but not just for the heck of it, and not for sexual reasons either. Like you, I wanted a relationship. All I can say is if you really like her, try talking to her. Just take that leap, it'll make it easier from then on.

I was lucky though, I was friends with the girl I'm with now for four years, went through a LOT to get her (I made a post all about it a while back) and now I have the person I'll spend the rest of my life with. Don't let all the #%&holes in school tease you about anything, just take it all in stride. Guys like us might not date 20 girls in our lifetime, but believe me when I say this: Holding out for that one girl pays off big time in the end. Because my girlfriend is the only girl I've been with, it makes it that much more special for me. And she improved my life tenfold. Plus, I'm an old-fashioned romantic and she likes that.

One bit of advice I can give: once you're actually with her and you know each other well, write her a song and play it for her. She'll LOVE that. My girl did

Good luck man.

-Jake

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"I don't care how good you are, how fast you are. You ain't good enough no lessin' you got the soul." -Hubert Sumlin

Elix1r, that was thoughtful and if you have that quality then you will indeed have all of the things your heart desires as well as the girl of your dreams in your lifetime. Not to worry, it may take some time, do things that you know are right, don't think for others and you will be fine.

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

Yes and no, depending on how you'd like to see it play out. There is the long term effort and then there is the permenant long term waste of time. Some guys here might roast me for saying this but I do not believe in the "friendship first" thing. I have seen some very dear friendships with women completely ruined when they "morphed" into the romantic side of things. I will never go that route again. Billy Crystal had it right in When Harry Met Sally. Men and women can't truly be friends because the sex thing always gets in the way. Married men will tell you (if they're honest) that they don't talk to their wives the same way they talk to their best friends. IMO if you set the tone for the relationship as "friendship" then you are stuck with that for life barring unforseen miraculous circumstances and I do mean honest-to-goodness-miraculous. You need to prove to her that you are just as trustworthy as her best friend but that is not who you are to her. You need to demonstrate that you can "Man-Up" when required and you can even show sensitivity but you are never her girlfriend or any reasonable facsimile. Show her your testosterone but only the good aspects of it and never the bad. The last thing you want to be is her confidante. You want her talking to her confidante about you. Be friend-like, be courtious, be a gentleman, be heroic if the opportunity presents itself but never, never let her see you as anything but a suitor.

My 2 cents.

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Just think of how awesome a guitar player you could have been by now if you had only spent the last 10 years practicing instead of obsessing over pickups and roasted maple necks.

definitely! women sometimes like horrid music and that's just the way it is. in fact last night my wife turned off "Texas Flood" and put in a Celine Dion album even if you think it sucks really bad do not tell her that. just say " its not my favorite" even though you sometimes want to go on a hour long rant

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I agree with a lot of this post. The friend zone can suck. The "most guys don't talk to their wives like their best friends" isn't true for me. That's why I married my wife. We can talk about anything and we screw with each other constantly. Relationships differ for everybody depending on their own personalities. I get your point though.