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Post subject: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:04 am
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Here's my 3 classical/nylon strung guitars:

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Ibanez electro classical, Manuel Rodriguez model A, Line 6 Variax Nylon 300.

Show us yours!

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Post subject: Re: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:26 am
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sorry-i don't wear nylons :lol:

oh you're talking guitars-my bad i thought somebody might be posting some interesting pictures. wrong website


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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:36 am
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Oh...And i thought this was going to be fun...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

No..Phreddybee...This is not the Dita Von Teese Thread site.... :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:36 am
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Nice guitars. I only have one(not enough space for more unfortunately), and am really feeling the lack of a cutaway at grade 6 classical. Half the scales are almost at the soundhole... The action is really high, and the fretboard seems to be made out of plastic. Still, it works. :wink: Hoping to get a better one soon.

Do your electros have a fuzzy noise coming from the electrics when you play(not through an amp, just acoustic)? My teachers electro classical does. I'm wondering whether to bother with the electro part when I buy a new classical(and also steel strung acoustic at some point, hopefully)-it could start doing buzzing after you've bought it.

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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:36 am
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....not before dinner and a rock concert :!: :idea: :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:45 pm
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Nice guitars. I only have one(not enough space for more unfortunately), and am really feeling the lack of a cutaway at grade 6 classical. Half the scales are almost at the soundhole... The action is really high, and the fretboard seems to be made out of plastic. Still, it works. :wink: Hoping to get a better one soon.

Do your electros have a fuzzy noise coming from the electrics when you play(not through an amp, just acoustic)? My teachers electro classical does. I'm wondering whether to bother with the electro part when I buy a new classical(and also steel strung acoustic at some point, hopefully)-it could start doing buzzing after you've bought it.


Grade 6? cool! Well done. You don't reach that level just dicking around.. Just slightly ahead of you. Love to hear you play.

Do you mean fuzzy noises when the electros aren't plugged in? That's odd. Perhaps his guitar has an internal wire vibrating against the sound board. My Ibanez is completely fine acoustically (just a little quiet as you would expect). The Line 6 is a completely different design: It's full of micro processors modelling classical and flamenco guitar sounds with reverb, compression and microphone distance simulation. It's only about an inch and a half deep, so acoustically, it's about as loud as an unplugged Gibson 335. When I did my study. there was no such thing as a cut away electro classical guitar! My first amplifield classical had a retro fitted pick up built into a bridge saddle. You just took out the old saddle and slid this one in. You then plugged a mini lead into it and you were already to go. It was pretty expensive - made was by the "Shadow" company, and it was pretty crap - could never get the string ouput levels even..

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Post subject: Re: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:47 pm
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I don't know that I could play a nylon stringed guitar(grammar, I know)
but just a question of curiosity, how does a person put strings on one?

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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:02 pm
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I don't know that I could play a nylon stringed guitar(grammar, I know)
but just a question of curiosity, how does a person put strings on one?


Take a look at the bridges on the guitars in my pic. You anchor the strings at the bridge through a hole just big enough to let the string through, then wrap the end of the string back and around itself at that point. When you tighten the string to pitch, that wrap pulls tight and the string is literally knotted to the front of the bridge. (Slightly easier than putting strings on a Bigsby Trem, but only just!) If you get it wrong, the string just unties itself as you tighten it and you have to start again.. :x

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Post subject: Re: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:09 pm
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ohhh. it sounds slightly complicated. but nice. (:
is it harder to play than a steel string? i've halfway tried to play one, some guy brought one to school and walked in while we were changing periods and everybody wanted my to give it a shot, well my fingers kept slippin so i gave it back and went on.
are they that much diffrent?

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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:04 pm
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Is it more difficult...Yes....and..... No

Your technique has to be spot on, however once you get comfortable with the adjustment it is ...A different palette. learning a Classical repertoire really opens you up to other forms of music, because of the stringent insistence on technique, it can seem overly difficult, but the rewards are worth the efforts.....If you fingerpick with all of your fingers than that is a start and a big part of the battle...However correctly striking the string for each particular note demands a lot of work in dexterity....actually the correct definition is pedagogy. This is the study ( why many pieces of music are called Etudes ) which incorporates both hands as well as posture and composure when playing.....

I would highly recommend finding a classical teacher, a decent classical guitar is going to be pricey, expect to pay about a $1000.00 for a pre-owned one of quality. I know some people will say you don't need to spend that much, but actually you do. Sound Projection is critical.
If you compare a Classical guitar like a Hauser or a Higher end Rodriguez and do a sound comparison to a Taylor Nylon String, the difference is immense. The tonality is such that a skilled guitarist ( You perhaps Someday ) brings out the nuances..
For Women Classical players..I would say Sharon Isbin ( s'been knownto hang out with Steve Vai )...Muriel Anderson....Lily Ashfar....Badi Assad...Ana Vidovic...

That should keep you busy.....Have fun in the new land...

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Post subject: Re: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:25 pm
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That's pretty cool.
I think a nylon string guitar just got put like second on a long list of instruments I want to own/learn. only coming after a 12 string acoustic. they seem fun! (:

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Post subject: Re: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:32 pm
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BTW I did say $1000.00 but you could possibly find a good classical for much less probably half, but do take someone with you who is a classical student at the very least..... It is critical to get a good guitar at first......
You can also look into the colleges, there are often professors that teach outside of the colleges fro a reasonable fee and even students who also teach.....

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Post subject: Re: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:37 pm
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53magnatone wrote:
BTW I did say $1000.00 but you could possibly find a good classical for much less probably half, but do take someone with you who is a classical student at the very least..... It is critical to get a good guitar at first......
You can also look into the colleges, there are often professors that teach outside of the colleges fro a reasonable fee and even students who also teach.....

yeah. the money isn't the deal. i'm in the state of mind that if you really want somethin', save for the good one, and you gotta work for the stuff you want.
I'll probably have me one one of these days :)
as fer lessons, I don't know that I'd take any. I know that may sound bad. but I 'm just slightly hard headed and want to be self taught..
ahh well

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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:46 pm
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trwells wrote:
53magnatone wrote:
BTW I did say $1000.00 but you could possibly find a good classical for much less probably half, but do take someone with you who is a classical student at the very least..... It is critical to get a good guitar at first......
You can also look into the colleges, there are often professors that teach outside of the colleges fro a reasonable fee and even students who also teach.....

yeah. the money isn't the deal. i'm in the state of mind that if you really want somethin', save for the good one, and you gotta work for the stuff you want.
I'll probably have me one one of these days :)
as fer lessons, I don't know that I'd take any. I know that may sound bad. but I 'm just slightly hard headed and want to be self taught..
ahh well


Trust Us....When it comes to Classical you really need a teacher. It's very easy to develop bad habits and incorrect technique, which later takes a lot of time and effort to redress.
Been that route, headbanging ( :lol: ) is not a plus in Classical..... :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Show Us Your Nylons..
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:54 pm
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haha, maybe.
I've still got ALOT of time before I get to the nylon. like I said, I want a 12 string first.. And I just now got my first electric, an american made Telecaster. :D

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