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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:22 am
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Yep I see what you're saying mate. Kind of the opposite of the statement I made. Instrument as a voice rather than voice as an instrument.

I wouldn't want to sing along with it though. Who knows what garbage would fall from my lips.

I could while away a good half hour humming the melody though. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:13 am
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for me it's the melody, energy and dynamic

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:17 pm
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To the guys who think that a song isn't a song without lyrics you are missing out on some fabulous melodies both from the classical and modern eras.Beethoven's beautiful Moonlight Sonata,Mozart's Adagio from his Violin Concerto No. 3 in D,Paganini's Violin Concerto No.1 Opus No.6 to name a few from the classical era.Santana's Samba Pa Ti and Jimi's Pali Gap are 2 fairly contemporary songs that have beautiful melodies yet no lyrics.In just acknowledging songs with lyrics as listenable you are depriving yourselves of listening to some of the most beautiful melodies ever written.

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:41 pm
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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:16 pm
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But still, you can't sing em....

Don't you guys over there understand the difference between an instrumental piece of music and a song?

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song/sôNG/
Noun:
A short poem or other set of words set to music or meant to be sung.
Singing or vocal music: "the young men broke into song".


Dictionary.com wrote:
song   [sawng, song] Show IPA
noun
1.
a short metrical composition intended or adapted for singing, especially one in rhymed stanzas; a lyric; a ballad.
2.
a musical piece adapted for singing or simulating a piece to be sung: Mendelssohn's “Songs without Words.”
3.
poetical composition; poetry.
4.
the art or act of singing; vocal music.
5.
something that is sung.


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(sông, sŏng)
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Music.
A brief composition written or adapted for singing.
The act or art of singing: broke into song.
A distinctive or characteristic sound made by an animal, such as a bird or an insect.
Poetry; verse.
A lyric poem or ballad.


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Definition: Song
Part of Speech Definition
Noun 1. A short musical composition with words; "a successful musical must have at least three good songs".[Wordnet]
2. A distinctive or characteristic sound; "the song of bullets was in the air"; "the song of the wind"; "the wheels sang their song as the train rocketed ahead".[Wordnet]
3. The act of singing; "with a shout and a song they marched up to the gates".[Wordnet]
4. The characteristic sound produced by a bird; "a bird will not learn its song unless it hears it at an early age".[Wordnet]
5. A very small sum; "he bought it for a song".[Wordnet]
6. The imperial dynasty of China from 960 to 1279; noted for art and literature and philosophy.[Wordnet]
7. That which is sung or uttered with musical modulations of the voice, whether of a human being or of a bird, insect, etc.[Websters]
8. A lyrical poem adapted to vocal music; a ballad.[Websters]
9. More generally, any poetical strain; a poem.[Websters]
10. Poetical composition; poetry; verse.[Websters]
11. An object of derision; a laughingstock.[Websters]
12. A trifle.[Websters].


Nowhere can you find it to mean an instrumental piece of music.

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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:19 pm
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:shock: why so serious? :D

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:08 pm
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In any of this I dident here anyone say That music is not music without lyrics. I simply said that to me music is not a song without lyrics. A song is for singing/Vocalising. and no kidding, don't take it so seriously. :)
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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:16 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Danny Duke wrote:
For me a song is not a song without lyrics.


I guess all the surf instrumentals from the late '50s and early '60s are just......what?

Chopped liver?

Music is a set of sympathetic tones set to a synchopated tempo. Lyrics may enhance the pleasantry but they're not necessary. Ever sing your kid to sleep with "Brahm's Lullaby"? The lyrics were were added many decades subsequent to the composer's death. How about the instrumental theme to "Bonanza"? You know it by heart -- likely you can hum the melody in your sleep or half in the bag after a night of carousing at a pub. Is that not a "song"?

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No Arjay: There not so much chopped Liver. There all Beautiful pieces of instrumental music and I love them all.


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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:18 pm
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Danny Duke wrote:
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Danny Duke wrote:
For me a song is not a song without lyrics.


I guess all the surf instrumentals from the late '50s and early '60s are just......what?

Chopped liver?

Music is a set of sympathetic tones set to a synchopated tempo. Lyrics may enhance the pleasantry but they're not necessary. Ever sing your kid to sleep with "Brahm's Lullaby"? The lyrics were were added many decades subsequent to the composer's death. How about the instrumental theme to "Bonanza"? You know it by heart -- likely you can hum the melody in your sleep or half in the bag after a night of carousing at a pub. Is that not a "song"?

Arjay

No Arjay: There not so much chopped Liver. There all Beautiful pieces of instrumental music and I love them all. 8)
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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:03 am
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The answer to this Thread's question is entirely subjective, just on the basis that from the previous posts, the actual definition of music on a personal level, isn't clearly defined.

Music for myself encompasses a wide range, instrumental as well as vocal and a combination of both in an infinite array of musical ensembles.

Undeniably we listen to Music for it's direct influence to our emotions or moods.

If I listen to Hildegard Von Bingen's ( 1098-1179 ) " Canticles of Ecstasy " by Sequentia this will evoke a completely different feeling than listening to Ry Cooder's " My Name is Buddy "
Or Natalie Macmaster's " In my Hands " will be another level from listening to Anne Sophie Mutter's " Mozart Violin Sonata's ".
Yet the Stones " Exile On Main Street " is another world when juxtaposed to Al Petteway's " Dream Guitar's Vol I

As Far as contemporary music in today's bands recordings, it would be few and far between if any. So much is sequenced and digitally enhanced that I have to search to find a band that is actually unaltered. The main reason why I prefer to go to a small venue and hear a local band or at least not so well known rather than a top act in a large setting

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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:01 pm
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EgFryer wrote:
If you're really interested in what music means to human beings, there are two good books on the subject of music and brain science:

Musicophilia by Oliver Sacks (who is not just the world's best known neurologist but also an accomplished musician himself);

This Is Your Brain On Music: The Science of a Human Obsession by Daniel Levitin.

You'll come away with a better understanding of how people hear and enjoy music, and probably of the entire human condition itself.

Thanks for the info EgFryer. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:53 pm
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For me listening to music is always about the structure and the chord and melody progressions and the emotive expressions and artistry in the playing of the instruments. I look for how the music moves me. I rarely even learn the lyrics to a song let alone consider them the most important aspect. I'd be willing to bet I only know the lyrics to about 350 or 400 songs or so off by heart and most of those are only because I've played them publicly at one time or another so I had to learn them. That's out of the probably tens of thousands of songs I've heard in my lifetime. Lyrics are what I hear last once I'm finished disecting and analyzing and feeling the musical content and arrangement and sonic texture.

I'm thinking it's possible that may be a right brain, left brain issue.

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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:45 am
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1 Food for Thought
2 Salvation for the Soul
3 Bounce for the Balls
4 Fire for the Imagination
5 Hope for the Downtrodden
6 Affirmation of Life.....................or cos' it just feels so good to shake dem bones! :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Why Do We listen To Music???
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:10 pm
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dharma47 wrote:
1 Food for Thought
2 Salvation for the Soul
3 Bounce for the Balls
4 Fire for the Imagination
5 Hope for the Downtrodden
6 Affirmation of Life.....................or cos' it just feels so good to shake dem bones! :wink:

all good and I thought too, it might very well be in our blood, our hearts keep the beat.

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