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Post subject: Re: Question about Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:04 am
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adey wrote:
Which actually makes the intervals fourths, which is how RB describes them..

Yah, I've heard that explanation before and it's wrong. I figured somebody might make this comment. I never heard that RB said it too. If he did then he's wrong too. Sorry. The "chord" is still based (named) on the root which in this case is inverted. I agree that the interval is technically a fourth purely from a mathematical perspective but it cannot be thought of that way because it doesn't work out musically. It's a fifth and an inverted root.

1 - X
2 - X
3 - X
4 - 5
5 - 5
6 - X

The "chord" above is called either G5 or Gm depending on which version of sheet music you look at. No fourth exists.

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Post subject: Re: Question about Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:41 am
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oneal lane wrote:
its the 5 3 5 version. not the 5 8 10

The youtube entry posted above with Blackmore demonstrating it is good but, there are others/better where he discusses how to play it.

Not "down strokes" but both strings "together".

But you have to watch it with Blackmore, he tends to play it a little different from time to time, and he also likes to decieve and make up stories to throw people off.

My Hal Leonard, Troy Stetina, Deep Purple book has it wrong with the 5 8 10 version.

I don't trust any of those type books any more.


Oneal:

I threw the book away. I also just ordered the Guitar Pro 6 software. It was only $38.95 (US). I downloaded the sheet music and am using it. By the way, it does use the 5-3-5 version.

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Post subject: Re: Question about Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:14 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
adey wrote:
Which actually makes the intervals fourths, which is how RB describes them..

Yah, I've heard that explanation before and it's wrong. I figured somebody might make this comment. I never heard that RB said it too. If he did then he's wrong too. Sorry. The "chord" is still based (named) on the root which in this case is inverted. I agree that the interval is technically a fourth purely from a mathematical perspective but it cannot be thought of that way because it doesn't work out musically. It's a fifth and an inverted root.

1 - X
2 - X
3 - X
4 - 5
5 - 5
6 - X

The "chord" above is called either G5 or Gm depending on which version of sheet music you look at. No fourth exists.



The comment is not wrong at all. Of course I know what these chords are. G5 Bb5 C5 etc. And useful too, as the loss of the 3rd means they work with major and minor sequences. Just commenting that once they're inverted (as they are on SOTW) the intervals become 4ths rather than 5ths. And I of course know that even when a 2 note chord is inverted, it is restored and correctly identifiable when the tonic is re-introduced. Blackmore described SOTW as an excercise in 4ths, amongst many other things he makes up as he goes along when in front of a video camera!

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Post subject: Re: Question about Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:48 pm
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truebluefliplover wrote:
Oneal:

I threw the book away. I also just ordered the Guitar Pro 6 software. It was only $38.95 (US). I downloaded the sheet music and am using it. By the way, it does use the 5-3-5 version.

Thanks.....


trueblue,

you had the troy stetina book?

ON a different note speaking of RB I have been trying to figure out this RB blues passage for a while now. I cannot get enough of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKf7oYywdS8

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Post subject: Re: Question about Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:57 pm
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oneal lane wrote:
truebluefliplover wrote:
Oneal:

I threw the book away. I also just ordered the Guitar Pro 6 software. It was only $38.95 (US). I downloaded the sheet music and am using it. By the way, it does use the 5-3-5 version.

Thanks.....


trueblue,

you had the troy stetina book?

ON a different note speaking of RB I have been trying to figure out this RB blues passage for a while now. I cannot get enough of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKf7oYywdS8


No, it was a Hal Leonard Book titled "The Best of Deep Purple".


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Post subject: Re: Question about Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:05 pm
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Yes, that is what my book is called, but I think Troy Stetina is the (credited) author. It has a picture of Blackmore on stage, in black leather, looking at him from his left side.

http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Purple-Step---Step-Techniques/dp/0634029428/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321650419&sr=1-1

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Post subject: Re: Question about Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:57 pm
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jeffo46 wrote:
The posting that you have from Danny Gill, is the most common way to play the intro.


Thanks Jeffo. The Lick Library DVDs are pretty good! I just wish that they were able to include TAB/notation with them. Oh well, that is why I ordered the Guitar Pro 6.


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Post subject: Re: Question about Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:44 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
It's actually not correct, at least it's not the way Ritchie played it anyway. If you listen carefully you can make out in some places that the "chords" (for lack of a better term --diads--) are two notes each. They are a root and a 5th but they are inverted.

+ for a song everyone seems to denigrate for being simple it is amazing how seldom it is actually played correctly.

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Post subject: Re: Question about Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:39 pm
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