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Post subject: Why doesn't Fender do set necks?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:28 pm
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You would think it was more desirable than bolt ons for upper fret access.
I am under the impression it is tough to get a replacement neck if you need one. So what's the purpose of keeping them bolt on?
Just curious if anyone knows. Tradition?


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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:31 pm
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Because set necks are terrible to repair on your own, unless you're a skilled luthier. Leo Fender's vision was to have affordable, easy to repair, and maintain instruments, so of course, bolt on was the way to go. Also, they did have set necks. I guess they weren't very successful. They're also more expensive.

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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:36 pm
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I've always found the Fender Strat and Tele to have far better upper fret access than the traditional Gibson guitars with set necks. The exception to that rule being the V.

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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:39 pm
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I've always found the Fender Strat and Tele to have far better upper fret access than the traditional Gibson guitars with set necks. The exception to that rule being the V.


les paul neck heels drive me crazy!!!!

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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:13 pm
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You mean like this?
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I think the answer is, if everyone wanted a Ford there be no reason for Chevy.
Or, variety is the spice of life.

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Post subject: Re: Why doesn't Fender do set necks?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:27 pm
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They have built them on occasion. The Fender Master Series guitars like the Esprit and Flame had set necks.


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Post subject: Re: Why doesn't Fender do set necks?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:36 am
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The same reason that they don't do block position markers on
their guitars (just basses). :?:

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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:34 am
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They have built them on occasion. The Fender Master Series guitars like the Esprit and Flame had set necks.


The Squier Esprit was a really nice guitar. Kick myself now that I didn't get one at the time. The Fender equivalent (so called Robin Ford guitar) is prohibitively expensive even if you can find one.

I recall there was a thread here about the set neck Fender GT Toronado.. (admittedly they were ultra rare) but it shows that Fender do have the expertise in set neck construction!

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Post subject: Re: Why doesn't Fender do set necks?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:58 am
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I find no difference in fret access with my bolt on neck AM DLX strat or my fixed neck SG.

Except the strap button position behind the heal on the SG drives me nuts.
The straplock ends up digging into body parts.

And the Strat cost me double what the SG did.

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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:09 am
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lungimsam wrote:
You would think it was more desirable than bolt ons for upper fret access.
I am under the impression it is tough to get a replacement neck if you need one. So what's the purpose of keeping them bolt on?
Just curious if anyone knows. Tradition?


Are you saying it's easlier to get a set neck replaced than a bolt on? Just the opposite is true and a bolt on can be changed in a matter of minutes and cheaper than a set neck which requires an act of congress to replace if you wanted to.

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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:00 am
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lungimsam wrote:
You would think it was more desirable than bolt ons for upper fret access.
I am under the impression it is tough to get a replacement neck if you need one. So what's the purpose of keeping them bolt on?
Just curious if anyone knows. Tradition?


Are you saying it's easlier to get a set neck replaced than a bolt on? Just the opposite is true and a bolt on can be changed in a matter of minutes and cheaper than a set neck which requires an act of congress to replace if you wanted to.


I think he's saying since you can't get a replacement neck from Fender, why have it bolt on?

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Post subject: Re: Why doesn't Fender do set necks?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:18 pm
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thejakeludwig wrote:
Easy answer, because set necks suck! :lol: :lol: :lol:


WhoawhoawhoawhoaWRONG.

They're different. As mentioned...


Drew365 wrote:
I think the answer is, if everyone wanted a Ford there be no reason for Chevy.
Or, variety is the spice of life.



And also...

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Because set necks are terrible to repair on your own, unless you're a skilled luthier. Leo Fender's vision was to have affordable, easy to repair, and maintain instruments, so of course, bolt on was the way to go. Also, they did have set necks. I guess they weren't very successful. They're also more expensive.


So... there we have it. End thread. :P

I also seem to remember a few Korean special models that were set neck- the Telecaster Custom FMT HH (like the American Deluxe one, but actually nicer :| ) and the one with P90s fitted to it that looked a little like a Telecaster... think the Jim Adkins signature may have it too?

The Fender Custom Shop also made the Showmaster Set Neck, not sure if they still do. I have the catalogue with it in though. There's also a Custom Shop Telecaster on UK eBay with a set neck that I'd like, but don't have $2,400 spare for.

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Post subject: Re: Why doesn't Fender do set necks?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:36 pm
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VladSoilerOfCarpets wrote:
I also seem to remember a few Korean special models that were set neck- the Telecaster Custom FMT HH (like the American Deluxe one, but actually nicer :| ) and the one with P90s fitted to it that looked a little like a Telecaster... think the Jim Adkins signature may have it too?

The Fender Custom Shop also made the Showmaster Set Neck, not sure if they still do. I have the catalogue with it in though. There's also a Custom Shop Telecaster on UK eBay with a set neck that I'd like, but don't have $2,400 spare for.

Here's one of the Korean Special Run Teles with a set neck - it's the red one with HH configuration. I love it! I think that's my only Fender set neck out of 20+ guitars. I think it's my only Fender without a pick guard, too.

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No, I take that back - the Toronado GT also has no pickguard.

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Post subject: Re: Why doesn't Fender do set necks?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:35 pm
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With Bolt ons, it's easier and faster and thus cheaper to manufacture and if the neck angle is screwed up, a shim under the neck and ship it out the door. If the neck is twisted, replace it and ship it out the door. With a set neck.....not so much.

The best access to upper frets that I have with any of my guitars is with my 24 fret semi hollow set neck. I can easily reach frets that don't even exist on a strat.

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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:32 pm
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We used to have a Korean Fender Tele Custom in the store with a set neck. It had a spalted maple top, it was really nice.

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