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Post subject: Re: can't sleep... just need to let it out
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:21 pm
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Nick,your protectiveness of your daughter reminds me of me a few years ago when the g girls were younger.If they brought a new boyfriend in the house I'd get my machete and wave it at them and say that I kept it sharp enough to circumcise a fly with. Never did they have trouble with a boyfriend giving them a hard time.

Ralf your girlfriend sounds like a keeper no matter what your parents think,loyality is one of the most important things to have in any friend.I'm sorry that I can't offer any help with your situation but all I can do is give you my support and I hope that things sort themselves out and that your folks wake up and see the qualities in your girlfriend that you see.Take Care.

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Post subject: Re: can't sleep... just need to let it out
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:20 am
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My son move out when he was 19. Started his own business as a web and E-Commerce site developer at 20 and now he's 26 and he's doing really well. It was tough, to let him go, but he needed to figure out what he wanted out of life. I supported him completely and he never asked me for financial help. I'm really proud of him. It's a tough thing being a parent. When you're a kid, you tend to let things revolve around yourself. I didn't care for his girlfriend that much, but I never let him know it. I always treated her nice.

Things will work out, just try to understand. I was also out 0f my parents home at 19.

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Post subject: Re: can't sleep... just need to let it out
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:43 am
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By 19 I had worked full time for a year and was off to university on my own dime. My parents didn't tell me what I couldn't or couldn't do because I was independent. That is, not dependent.
Adults should treat other adults in an adult manner. Understanding, tolerence and attempt to work things out.
Your parents must be under a lot of stress. The financial situation in most of europe these days isn't so great.


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Post subject: Re: can't sleep... just need to let it out
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:47 am
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inbalance99 wrote:
By 19 I had worked full time for a year and was off to university on my own dime. My parents didn't tell me what I couldn't or couldn't do because I was independent. That is, not dependent.
Adults should treat other adults in an adult manner. Understanding, tolerence and attempt to work things out.
Your parents must be under a lot of stress. The financial situation in most of europe these days isn't so great.


there isn't much future for anyone today :( that's the scary part


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Post subject: Re: can't sleep... just need to let it out
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:56 am
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ralfcaetano wrote:
inbalance99 wrote:
By 19 I had worked full time for a year and was off to university on my own dime. My parents didn't tell me what I couldn't or couldn't do because I was independent. That is, not dependent.
Adults should treat other adults in an adult manner. Understanding, tolerence and attempt to work things out.
Your parents must be under a lot of stress. The financial situation in most of europe these days isn't so great.


there isn't much future for anyone today :( that's the scary part


It has been much worse, I would not want to have been 19 years old anywhere in europe in 1944, but things eventually worked out pretty well.
And try to remember what you see on tv or news on the internet is that the reporters job is to attract readers, period. And bad news sells much better than good news. Reporters aren't economists, they are conveyors of bad news, the worse they can make it the better for them. So they will portray 0% growth as the end of the world, it isn't. Things are worse than they were, many people will suffer, but many will get through this and have a good live. Keep your eye on what is important for the long term.


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Post subject: Re: can't sleep... just need to let it out
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:18 am
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SKcoppertele wrote:
you're 19. take your girlfriend,get engaged,find a nice little house,get an ok job,start payin off some of those house payments,get married,before ya know it,now your 25.by the time your 30 you'll have a family started.live your life while you have it.don't let your PARENTS hold you back.of course I'm looking at this through 13 year old eyes.but that is what I think man. :)


dude a few years ago i would have said the same thing... it's not that easy today...


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Post subject: Re: can't sleep... just need to let it out
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:02 am
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I think one thing that might make things easier for you is to realize that you are not a child living at home anymore, you are an adult living at home. The expectations for that are completely different. What compounds things is you mentioned you don't have a job.

Who was paying for the Strat? If you were paying for it I don't see what your mom's complaint could have been.

I know as a parent I certainly wouldn't mind if circumstances made it necessary for my kids to continue living at home after 18 but the expectations from them would be completely different then when they were children.

It certainly sounds like there are communication problems in your house, things aren't likely to get any better if that does not improve regardless of who's fault it is.

I hope things get better for you...

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Post subject: Re: can't sleep... just need to let it out
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:11 am
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bobio wrote:
I think one thing that might make things easier for you is to realize that you are not a child living at home anymore, you are an adult living at home. The expectations for that are completely different. What compounds things is you mentioned you don't have a job.

Who was paying for the Strat? If you were paying for it I don't see what your mom's complaint could have been.

I know as a parent I certainly wouldn't mind if circumstances made it necessary for my kids to continue living at home after 18 but the expectations from them would be completely different then when they were children.

It certainly sounds like there are communication problems in your house, things aren't likely to get any better if that does not improve regardless of who's fault it is.

I hope things get better for you...
thanks :) and for the record i was paying with cash i earned working all summer


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Post subject: Re: can't sleep... just need to let it out
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:05 am
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IMHO the opening paragraph of this post is the key to the highway in this. Your dad needs treatment for the depression resulting from his accident. and your family need to get into group therapy. Things may begin to fall into place as a result. Until then, you all remain drowning in a disfunctional sea from which you will likely not self-rescue without assistance.

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