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It is funny, I was tlking about this with a buddy. I find that their hasn't been really any good melodic solos in recent music (At least what I have heard). I miss them, because I found that they broke up the song well.


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My wife's aunt is a great cook and uses the German word "Geschmack" to describe adding that extra touch to make a good meal an extraordinary meal.

That's what a good guitar solo is all about, just the right amount of magic to turn a good song into an anthem for a generation. Too much spice and you end up with gas and a heartburn.

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There are still guys out there playing great solos..... I know what you mean though....... It's not as common..... but you guys are all making it sound like no one at all can play guitar anymore aha..... what about Brad Paisley? Or John Mayer?.... or Zakk Wylde? aha..... or any of that music like Atreyu and stuff.... they are playing half decent solos there..... guitar solos aren't dead.... I actually think they are starting to come back now lol


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I'm kind of glad we're pass the era where everybody played as if they were paid by the note. A solo can add a wonderful element but it is not always necessary. I enjoy listening to a guitar player that knows when to "exit" a song. 8)


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There are still guys out there playing great solos..... I know what you mean though....... It's not as common..... but you guys are all making it sound like no one at all can play guitar anymore aha..... what about Brad Paisley? Or John Mayer?.... or Zakk Wylde? aha..... or any of that music like Atreyu and stuff.... they are playing half decent solos there..... guitar solos aren't dead.... I actually think they are starting to come back now lol


Two of my favorites John Mayer and Brad Paisley. YOu took the words right out of my mouth. They are few and far between these days but there are some good solos out there.


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I also forgot to mention Henry Garza from Los Lonely Boys lol


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Nick Dj wrote:
My wife's aunt is a great cook and uses the German word "Geschmack" to describe adding that extra touch to make a good meal an extraordinary meal.

That's what a good guitar solo is all about, just the right amount of magic to turn a good song into an anthem for a generation. Too much spice and you end up with gas and a heartburn.


I like the spice :lol:


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[quote="Maruuk"]Seems like the anti-solo thing started with punk, then grundge and alternative music in which solos were considered egotistical and insincere, and besides, nobody in those genres are good enough to even TAKE solos anyways!




Really? J Masics of Dinosaur Jr. can solo with the best of them. His playing is a mix of rhythm and lead.


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I love what Ginger Baker said back in '67: "We started out just doin' the tunes about 5 minutes each, but we heard that people wanted their money back because we weren't soloin' long enough. Now we can fit in only about 3 songs a set, but nobody wants their money back."

Those days are long gone.


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ahhhh the good old days of endless improvisation jams :) .... I love Cream lol


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[cryingstrat]Sometimes I think that YES's Tales From Topographical Oceans was the end of the extended solo. It was a wildly audacious and egocentric work which is often credited with the creation of the punk movement. Art rock or Prog had gone too far. Not in my eyes, but most people's eyes.

It seems to me that there's an effort to keep rock at a common denominator. Virtuosity is frowned upon. Rock is the only genre I know of where this is true. In classical, jazz even bluegrass, virtuosity is the goal and rewarded.

Personally I think it's wrong. Rock should be allowed to explore all the avenues available to it. Why not classical rock? Why not jazz/fusion rock? Why is it that every song has to be simple enough for some kid in highschool to figure out in a weekend? OH well......[/quote]

hey im a kid in highschool that gigs r u trying to say that kids cant play

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So simple is bad?

Sometimes, I think, the hardest thing you can do is make something simple and great. That goes for music, art, design etc.

Less can be more.

Doesn't mean that things that aren't simple are bad, on the contrary they can be just as great, just that its wrong to dismiss a simple song as easy to write/conceive. It's all too easy to hide behind a flurry of notes (-cough- dragon force & co. -cough cough-


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I think that a great guitar line (and that doesn't necessarily mean virtuosity) can make a great song better and make it more memorable. But it HAS to fit the song, and not distract or take away from it. It's like the story of Scotty Moore's second solo break in Elvis' 'Hound Dog'-he says he messed up on it, and Elvis chose that take BECAUSE of that, and it didn't make Scotty happy at the time. Albert Lee supposedly once said it sounded like 'scaffold poles falling off a lorry (truck)', and lots of musicians he knew were copying/learning it note for note!


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So simple is bad?

Sometimes, I think, the hardest thing you can do is make something simple and great. That goes for music, art, design etc.

Less can be more.

Doesn't mean that things that aren't simple are bad, on the contrary they can be just as great, just that its wrong to dismiss a simple song as easy to write/conceive. It's all too easy to hide behind a flurry of notes (-cough- dragon force & co. -cough cough-

It depends on why it's simple. If it's simple because the song needs to be simple, then arbitrary guitar antics can ruin the song. By the same token, a song that is difficult just to show the audience and other guitar players how bitchin' you are is just as bad if not worse.

But playing badly and claiming lead work is wanking or egocentric so the player doesn't have to learn the craft is a super-cop out.

Zeppelin, for instance, had songs like The Rain Song or Achilles Last Stand, and still able to write songs as simple as Boogie With Stu or Gallows Pole.

My aproach to music has always been, be able to play along with Steve Via without getting lost, and be able to play along with Jewel and not get board.

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Maruuk wrote:
Seems like the anti-solo thing started with punk, then grundge and alternative music in which solos were considered egotistical and insincere, and besides, nobody in those genres are good enough to even TAKE solos anyways!8^>


Nonsense. I have heard plenty of solos in all of the mentioned genres

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