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Post subject: I miss guitar solos
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:45 pm
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OK, I'm going to come out and say it...

Yes, there are many artists who feature solos in their work...but for a long time, I got the feeling that a lot of bands went out of their way to avoid featuring guitar solos in their songs...this was especially evident in a lot of rock/pop from the mid-to-late 1990's to today.

Is it just me...or is there a serious deficit of newer guitar players out there who can really wail on a guitar? I know there's a few...but sheesh...just the fact that so many of these topics talk about older players kind of leads me to believe that this is the case.

I miss the guitar solo as a staple in a song. I hope it makes a comeback!

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:53 pm
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i both agree and disargee with u. good guitar solos aren't in alot of songs today

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:02 pm
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A guitar solo doesn't make a song.

Guitar solos can be great (and I do like a good solo, don't get me wrong) but a lot of the time its just egocentric fret-wanking.


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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:04 pm
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ally wrote:
A guitar solo doesn't make a song.

Guitar solos can be great (and I do like a good solo, don't get me wrong) but a lot of the time its just egocentric fret-wanking.


True, it may not make a song, but, it does define one. Take Stevie Ray's version of Little Wing or even his El Mocambo version of Texas Flood, for example...... need I say more??? :D

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:13 pm
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A Rock song without a Tenor solo (Guitar, Sax, Piano, what have you) is like a Concerto without a Violin Solo, or an Opera without a Spotlighted Soprano, or a Doo Wop Quartet without a Fetured Bass, or a Barber Shop Quartet without a Lead Tenor.

That being said, lot's of folk tunes don't have leads of any kind, so I guess it depends on the song, and weather or not a solo or lead part will serve the song or the player.

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:13 pm
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blues_boy wrote:
ally wrote:
A guitar solo doesn't make a song.

Guitar solos can be great (and I do like a good solo, don't get me wrong) but a lot of the time its just egocentric fret-wanking.


True, it may not make a song, but, it does define one. Take Stevie Ray's version of Little Wing or even his El Mocambo version of Texas Flood, for example...... need I say more??? :D


An SRV song is nothing but one long solo anyway, hehe.


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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:14 pm
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Guitar_Hurricane wrote:
blues_boy wrote:
ally wrote:
A guitar solo doesn't make a song.

Guitar solos can be great (and I do like a good solo, don't get me wrong) but a lot of the time its just egocentric fret-wanking.


True, it may not make a song, but, it does define one. Take Stevie Ray's version of Little Wing or even his El Mocambo version of Texas Flood, for example...... need I say more??? :D


An SRV song is nothing but one long solo anyway, hehe.


Ah! Never mind............. just trying to help here...................... :wink:

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:23 pm
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Seems like the anti-solo thing started with punk, then grundge and alternative music in which solos were considered egotistical and insincere, and besides, nobody in those genres are good enough to even TAKE solos anyways!8^>


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Maruuk wrote:
Seems like the anti-solo thing started with punk, then grundge and alternative music in which solos were considered egotistical and insincere, and besides, nobody in those genres are good enough to even TAKE solos anyways!8^>

I didn't want to be the one to say it, but that's the unfortunate truth. If Joe Pass decided to do an Album with no lead as a statement, it would be legitamit. From your average Power Chord Pounder, it sounds a little more like a cop out.

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Maruuk wrote:
Seems like the anti-solo thing started with punk, then grundge and alternative music in which solos were considered egotistical and insincere, and besides, nobody in those genres are good enough to even TAKE solos anyways!8^>


I don't know, Cobain had some nice little (minimal) solos up his sleeve.


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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:32 pm
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Maruuk wrote:
Seems like the anti-solo thing started with punk, then grundge and alternative music in which solos were considered egotistical and insincere, and besides, nobody in those genres are good enough to even TAKE solos anyways!8^>


That's true, unfortunately :(
What I don't get is why Thurston Moore 'having sex' with his guitar on stage is less egoistic than B.B. letting Lucille sing a few lines :shock:


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Solos are what drew me to the guitar all those years ago.


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Maruuk wrote:
Seems like the anti-solo thing started with punk, then grundge and alternative music in which solos were considered egotistical and insincere, and besides, nobody in those genres are good enough to even TAKE solos anyways!8^>


Sometimes I think that YES's Tales From Topographical Oceans was the end of the extended solo. It was a wildly audacious and egocentric work which is often credited with the creation of the punk movement. Art rock or Prog had gone too far. Not in my eyes, but most people's eyes.

It seems to me that there's an effort to keep rock at a common denominator. Virtuosity is frowned upon. Rock is the only genre I know of where this is true. In classical, jazz even bluegrass, virtuosity is the goal and rewarded.

Personally I think it's wrong. Rock should be allowed to explore all the avenues available to it. Why not classical rock? Why not jazz/fusion rock? Why is it that every song has to be simple enough for some kid in highschool to figure out in a weekend? OH well......

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Maruuk wrote:
Seems like the anti-solo thing started with punk, then grundge and alternative music in which solos were considered egotistical and insincere, and besides, nobody in those genres are good enough to even TAKE solos anyways!8^>



I've heard plenty of guitar solos in punk rock music aha..... it all depends on what your vision is for your music..... as much as I love guitar solos (and playing them) I'd rather see someone be an exceptionaly good rhythm player than some wanker that can barely solo and is lacking in his rhythm skill because he spends all his time trying to solo lol


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Too many electronics today, push a button and you get guitar, piano, organ, etc. What ever happened to artists who actually play the instruments ?


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