It is currently Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:09 pm

All times are UTC - 7 hours



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 41 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
Post subject: Fender Relic Guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:48 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 875
Location: Oregon
What is your opinion of Fenders Relic guitars?

I can understand wanting to own a vintage looking guitar but I think Fender has gotten a little carried away with some the heavily reliced guitars they make. Do people really want a guitar with a rusty bridge that cost 3k? And simulated buckle rash and dings? Shouldn't a guitarist have all of that happen to their guitar because they've owned it for 20 years and the guitar has been to hell and back with them?

Your thoughts please...


Top
Profile
Fender Play Winter Sale 2020
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:03 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:22 am
Posts: 88
There is definately a draw to the look of a worn in Strat. I bought a Closet Classic Finish, little bit of vintage look there. Mostly just checking in the finish that looks fantastic.

Its all personal taste I guess. I was looking at a 60's Relic before I found mine. I gotta say it did look great. For me I think the heavy relic is just a little too much for me given what I have to pay for it.

On the flipside I do love the "natural" relic finish my Honey Blonde HWY 1 is showing.

Too each their I suppose.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Fender Relic Guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:08 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:11 am
Posts: 928
Location: South Georgia
secretsoundz wrote:
What is your opinion of Fenders Relic guitars?

I can understand wanting to own a vintage looking guitar but I think Fender has gotten a little carried away with some the heavily reliced guitars they make. Do people really want a guitar with a rusty bridge that cost 3k? And simulated buckle rash and dings? Shouldn't a guitarist have all of that happen to their guitar because they've owned it for 20 years and the guitar has been to hell and back with them?

Your thoughts please...


Well, I agree with you to a certain extent. I don't have anything against relic'ing guitars, I think it's a interesting process. But I also think Fender takes it too far with their heavy relic'd stuff. The fact is, their heavy relics looks like crap, they don't look authentic at all. The closet classics and all the other stuff with light relic'ing looks pretty good though.


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:33 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:35 pm
Posts: 470
I dunno, relic'd guitars don't make a lot of sense to me. It seems like this market is being aimed at people who want 'instant mojo'; that is, getting a vintage looking and playing guitar without the maintenance hassles and past history of possible abuse. Would you pay extra money for a vintage or semi-vintage instrument that had more wear, if you could get a cleaner equivalent for the same price or less? Getting a new 'relic' RI just seems a little incongruous to me. BTW, the NOS RI models are a little less expensive. I'm not saying that the NOS models have that 'played in' feel, but at the end of the day, what is the consumer looking for? I guess it's all a matter of taste.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Fender Relic Guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:59 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 875
Location: Oregon
Guitar_Hurricane wrote:
secretsoundz wrote:
What is your opinion of Fenders Relic guitars?

I can understand wanting to own a vintage looking guitar but I think Fender has gotten a little carried away with some the heavily reliced guitars they make. Do people really want a guitar with a rusty bridge that cost 3k? And simulated buckle rash and dings? Shouldn't a guitarist have all of that happen to their guitar because they've owned it for 20 years and the guitar has been to hell and back with them?

Your thoughts please...


Well, I agree with you to a certain extent. I don't have anything against relic'ing guitars, I think it's a interesting process. But I also think Fender takes it too far with their heavy relic'd stuff. The fact is, their heavy relics looks like crap, they don't look authentic at all. The closet classics and all the other stuff with light relic'ing looks pretty good though.


Agreed!


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:04 pm
Offline
Rock Star
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:47 pm
Posts: 4294
Location: Somewhere near Seattle
First off, I mean absolutely no offense to anyone who has purchased a relic'd Fender. If that's what you dig, then you should have it.

I love a nice relic'd guitar, but I want that guitar to be mine and I want to know the story behind every little ding, scratch, finish checking and buckle rash. I wan't to be the cause of all that damage. I wan't to be able to tell the story of the time that chick jumped on my lap while I was holding my axe and it fell to the floor, hitting a mic stand and taking a small chunk out of the lower bout. I want every one of those dings and dents to tell my story with my guitar. Just like I have scars on my body that tell the tale of my life, my guitar should have the scars to tell the story of our life together.

A pre-relic'd guitar doesn't tell any story other then I wanted to buy a brand new beat up guitar to look cool. To me, thats not much of a story at all.

_________________
"is that a real poncho...i mean
Is that a mexican poncho
Or is that a sears poncho?
Hmmm...no foolin ...." FZ


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:08 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 875
Location: Oregon
cryingstrat wrote:
First off, I mean absolutely no offense to anyone who has purchased a relic'd Fender. If that's what you dig, then you should have it.

I love a nice relic'd guitar, but I want that guitar to be mine and I want to know the story behind every little ding, scratch, finish checking and buckle rash. I wan't to be the cause of all that damage. I wan't to be able to tell the story of the time that chick jumped on my lap while I was holding my axe and it fell to the floor, hitting a mic stand and taking a small chunk out of the lower bout. I want every one of those dings and dents to tell my story with my guitar. Just like I have scars on my body that tell the tale of my life, my guitar should have the scars to tell the story of our life together.

A pre-relic'd guitar doesn't tell any story other then I wanted to buy a brand new beat up guitar to look cool. To me, thats not much of a story at all.


That's exactly what I'm saying!


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:16 pm
Offline
Roadie
Roadie
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:42 am
Posts: 258
Relics....You mean "collector's items"?

Are those really guitars for playing? Or, are they more akin to museum pieces?

Hmm....Well, because Fender is....well, Fender....I don't know if it's worth having something like that unless I was all about "buying and selling guitars". I'm not. I buy one, and I play it until it falls apart.

So...nah, no relics for me. I can't knock what collectors do...but for me? I'd rather have the hot rod than the antique.

(But on that note...I am a fan of reissues...in many instances Fender is reminded of older designs that sounded great...I'm happy to see the larger headstock back on the newer models..)


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:17 pm
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:03 pm
Posts: 1222
Location: Texas
secretsoundz wrote:
cryingstrat wrote:
First off, I mean absolutely no offense to anyone who has purchased a relic'd Fender. If that's what you dig, then you should have it.

I love a nice relic'd guitar, but I want that guitar to be mine and I want to know the story behind every little ding, scratch, finish checking and buckle rash. I wan't to be the cause of all that damage. I wan't to be able to tell the story of the time that chick jumped on my lap while I was holding my axe and it fell to the floor, hitting a mic stand and taking a small chunk out of the lower bout. I want every one of those dings and dents to tell my story with my guitar. Just like I have scars on my body that tell the tale of my life, my guitar should have the scars to tell the story of our life together.

A pre-relic'd guitar doesn't tell any story other then I wanted to buy a brand new beat up guitar to look cool. To me, thats not much of a story at all.


That's exactly what I'm saying!


Summed it up for me to!!!


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:21 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:35 pm
Posts: 470
flamekaster wrote:
secretsoundz wrote:
cryingstrat wrote:
First off, I mean absolutely no offense to anyone who has purchased a relic'd Fender. If that's what you dig, then you should have it.

I love a nice relic'd guitar, but I want that guitar to be mine and I want to know the story behind every little ding, scratch, finish checking and buckle rash. I wan't to be the cause of all that damage. I wan't to be able to tell the story of the time that chick jumped on my lap while I was holding my axe and it fell to the floor, hitting a mic stand and taking a small chunk out of the lower bout. I want every one of those dings and dents to tell my story with my guitar. Just like I have scars on my body that tell the tale of my life, my guitar should have the scars to tell the story of our life together.

A pre-relic'd guitar doesn't tell any story other then I wanted to buy a brand new beat up guitar to look cool. To me, thats not much of a story at all.


That's exactly what I'm saying!


Summed it up for me to!!!


Same here!


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:26 pm
Offline
Roadie
Roadie
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:42 am
Posts: 258
Ah...wow...I didn't get the topic. NOW I do...

Ha! All I can say is if anyone WANTS a guitar that "looks" like a relic but is still new?

Loan it to me for a few hours....I can take care of that for ya!!


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:35 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:11 am
Posts: 928
Location: South Georgia
I want to add something else.

When they relic a guitar the price naturally goes up just because of this. This is another problem I have. If I want a relic'd guitar, I want it to look brand new when I buy it and then I will relic it myself. Even if you do the relic yourself and it's not entirely "actual" wear and tear, then that makes it closer to real abuse than buying a guitar that's been relic'd by someone else. At least all the dents and scratches etc. have been done by "you" and every scratch is your work and no one else's.

I like to do what I call the "50/50" relic. Where you fix the parts so they will relic naturally, but a lot faster.


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:36 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:30 am
Posts: 366
Location: Denmark
I got a slightly different opinion on this, I dig the relics :) I hate all that white-black-silver straight edges and symmetrical stuff in all design nowadays(not guitar designs), and especially white is a color I just can't stand.
But guess what, my CS is Olympic white heavy relic'd body and now vintage white worn guitars is the first my eyes settle on in any collection. Mine definitely gives me more 'mojo' feeling than almost any real vintage guitar I've played

My point is, it's just about the looks, and I honestly think guitars need a good bunch of road years to look good :D I dig those totally messed up guitars where theres almost no paint left, and the custom shop helped me get 20-30 years closer to that look :wink:


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:41 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:30 am
Posts: 366
Location: Denmark
I didn't know about the relics being more expensive, i bought mine slightly used for a little under 3k which is the same as a new am deluxe in DK :lol: Would have chosen the Closet Classic if a was buying it new though


Top
Profile
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:46 pm
Offline
Rock Star
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:33 am
Posts: 8461
Location: Mars, the angry red planet.
Personally, I think buying a brand new, "pre-beat up" guitar for much more than a pristine one is utterly ridiculous. I also don't buy into this pseudo mojo stuff either.

I must tip my hat to the marketing genius on this one though: Taking what is well beyond factory seconds and in-house used stuff, slapping them together and marketing them for more than top dollar while not only being able to get, but to sustain getting such astronomical prices is really something.

Please note that the above is merely my personal opinion and I don't look down on anyone who enjoys them.


Top
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 41 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 7 hours

Fender Play Winter Sale 2020

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Mr. Nylon and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: