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Post subject: Re: And the plot continues to thicken......
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:06 pm
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I have learned in my life that if at all possible, never, ever allow the government to make your decisions for you - elected officials of any type are typically self seeking, self important hypocrites of the first order.......politicians are not to be trusted - ever.


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Post subject: Re: And the plot continues to thicken......
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:24 pm
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Very interesting article. Still sounds a bit like conspiracy theory to me though.

And capitalism is NO BETTER than communism, just a different way to achieve the same goal. Look how far capitalism has gotten us in this country! :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:


Hang on there Tim... Please think about that... Im with Frank on this... Im leaving this thread right now...

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I've spent plenty of time thinking about it. Capitalism is the reason we're in the mess we're in. If it wasn't, my tax dollars would never have gone to bail out companies that couldn't properly handle their business; so now we get farther into debt, and the things my tax dollars were supposed to go to are suffering and taxes are again being raised. Isn't Capitalism great? :roll: . Only in a capitalist system such as this one is the government going to give tens of billions of dollars to those failing companies (because if they fail it will kill our economy...blah blah blah). The government is getting rich off of the people in this country blindly following, because they (the citizens falling for this crap) will believe anything they're told. I choose not to be that guy. Capitalism has not helped this country in any way, it has killed the middle class, and the biggest proprietors of that system are the ones that got the multi-billion dollar bailouts to pay their bonuses before they stepped down from their respective companies. I respect your guys' opinions, and I do apologize for any abrasive comments I may have made earlier, but nobody will ever be able to convince me that capitalism is even a decent system. I'm out of this thread now too, I should know better than to engage in political debates on here...

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:27 pm
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With all due respect TimDrakeMusic,

I think that you are confusing capitalism (nothing to do with the government, it's about our economy, free market, etc), with socialism (gov controlled economy), which our gov practices now. It is the gov that is bailing out the companies, capitalism has nothing to do with it. I understand your disdain for it, and agree with you about it, but don't blame capitalism for socialist problems. Classic communist/socialist propaganda tells us that capitalism is the problem, which is a lie. It's about control, global economy, and just plain evil behind the world happenings right now. Destroying capitalism (especially in the US) is simply part of the global BS thinking. :idea:

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:38 pm
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But you believe capitalism is a good system? I got a bridge for sell if you're interested...

Maybe you would like America to become a Socialist country,seems we're heading in that direction.....


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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:58 pm
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But you believe capitalism is a good system? I got a bridge for sell if you're interested...

Maybe you would like America to become a Socialist country,seems we're heading in that direction.....


Neither evil is better or worse than the other.

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:20 am
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Humans run governments.

Humans look out for number one.

So, whichever humans are in power, no matter what type of government it is, they will strive get theirs, while depriving others. They may say nice things, and throw you a little bone to make it just bearable for you so you don't revolt. But they are only looking out for numero uno.

This occurs, and has always occured in any human-operated venture. In any form of human government. As far as I know. There is always someone at the top who wants more.

It is noble for humans to try to end this type of thing and make things fair. Our ancestors have tried hard for thousands of years. But it will never end until humans end, or become 100% good. So, someone is always gonna be unhappy with the way things are. Maybe you this time. Maybe someone else in 2012.

Hard to not be a misanthropist, ain't it?

Of course, I am also a self-serving human. So I guess that is why, by default, I am a misanthropist.


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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:27 am
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TimDrakeMusic wrote:
Rebelsoul wrote:
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But you believe capitalism is a good system? I got a bridge for sell if you're interested...

Maybe you would like America to become a Socialist country,seems we're heading in that direction.....


Neither evil is better or worse than the other.


Based on what?
Communism has failed every time. Just look at the USSR.

Capitalism and free enterprise made us the greatest nation in the world.

Do you think Oprah would have become a gazzilionaire in the Soviet Union? China?


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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:20 am
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Okra....I mean Oprah must be the luckiest fat idiot in America other than Michael Moore. :evil:


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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:03 pm
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Rebelsoul wrote:
Okra....I mean Oprah must be the luckiest fat idiot in America other than Michael Moore. :evil:



I don't think its luck at all. She worked hard, found something she was good at and forged a very successful career. Middle America seems to love her (personally I think she's full of crap) and clearly she's a shrewd business woman to market herself and build an empire of that magnitude.

My point is it wouldn't have happened anyplace else and that opportunity exist here.
It's not based on a take from the rich and give to the poor mentality.
You can take away all their wealth and still wouldn't be enough to satisfy the growing welfare state.

Someone is always gonna be on top someone's always gonna be at the bottom.


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Someone is always gonna be on top someone's always gonna be at the bottom.


YOU GOT IT, BABE!

I prefer "lonely at the top" to groveling with the "huddled masses" at the bottom.

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:09 pm
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cookieman15061 wrote:
Someone is always gonna be on top someone's always gonna be at the bottom.

...and somebody's always going to be on top of somebody's bottom, too. :P

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:14 pm
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I think that we'd be all scared out of our wits if we knew 1/10 of the backroom skullduggery that goes on in all governments world wide.

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:40 pm
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Same kind of crazy coincidence that resulted in the DOJ starting an investigation into S&P right after they downgrade the US credit rating because The Government is borrowing irresponsible amounts of money from foreign countries.

"just because you're crazy don't mean there ain't a conspiracy or two out there"

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:23 pm
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The Judicial system has long been used by the Liberals as a way of making law and going after those against them.

Case in point where does the Constitution say Separation of Church and State. It Don't! It was a metaphor of Jeffereson to the Danbury Baptist. Liberals ran with it!

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:54 pm
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+1 cvilleira

Except, I would replace the term "liberals" with "globalists" (NWO). I believe that the two "main-stream" parties these days are now actually one and the same, hijacked and used by these NWO jerk-offs, as they have hijacked much of our government over the years. The "main-stream" media gives the views that they are told to give to make up the issues that keep us all divided and side-tracked while the NWO takes over. JMO :idea:

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