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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:51 am
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Wow...looks like the riots in Watts and Detroit from back in 67. Hope everyone is safe and continues to stay that way :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:19 am
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Hi Guys: I was caught up in the middle of some of this last night, escorting my wife home safely. Amazing: nothing remotely like this has happened in this country in 200 years. I'm old enough to have seen the riots of 1981 with my own eyes, but this is something else entirely.

We expect to see this stuff on our TV screens from other countries far away, not filmed live from helicopters right above our roofs. Incredible that nobody has yet died. It has to be brought under control right now or there's no knowing where it will lead.

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Unbelievable Ceri!!! I've been worried about you and all of our forum friends/members from the area. You all please stay safe and I hope the government gets these punks under control soon!! :?


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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:07 am
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Ceri wrote:
Hi Guys: I was caught up in the middle of some of this last night, escorting my wife home safely. Amazing: nothing remotely like this has happened in this country in 200 years. I'm old enough to have seen the riots of 1981 with my own eyes, but this is something else entirely.

We expect to see this stuff on our TV screens from other countries far away, not filmed live from helicopters right above our roofs. Incredible that nobody has yet died. It has to be brought under control right now or there's no knowing where it will lead.

Cheers - C


Unbelievable Ceri!!! I've been worried about you and all of our forum friends/members from the area. You all please stay safe and I hope the government gets these punks under control soon!! :?


Agreed - - hope you all stay away from harm's way!

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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:12 am
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fhopkins wrote:
Ceri wrote:
Hi Guys: I was caught up in the middle of some of this last night, escorting my wife home safely. Amazing: nothing remotely like this has happened in this country in 200 years. I'm old enough to have seen the riots of 1981 with my own eyes, but this is something else entirely.

We expect to see this stuff on our TV screens from other countries far away, not filmed live from helicopters right above our roofs. Incredible that nobody has yet died. It has to be brought under control right now or there's no knowing where it will lead.

Cheers - C


Unbelievable Ceri!!! I've been worried about you and all of our forum friends/members from the area. You all please stay safe and I hope the government gets these punks under control soon!! :?


Agreed - - hope you all stay away from harm's way!


Same here!

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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:24 am
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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:25 am
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I certainly am concerned for our London brethren but I find it difficult to believe that the shooting death of a known gang leader who was apparently armed himself would be the sole cause of the unrest London is experiencing. I would be interested in what the Londoners think the underlying causes might be. The media in the US is certainly not asking. They tend to paint the picture of an innocent father of four gunned down by an aggressive Police Force. :? I pray you guys remain safe from harm.


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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:31 am
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You can't believe anything that the US Press says. They are just like Pravda of times past!! :? They are nothing but the mouthpiece of the current administration!!


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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:43 am
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fhopkins wrote:
You can't believe anything that the US Press says. The are just like Pravda of times past!! :? They are nothing but the mouthpiece of the current administration!!

Police here in the US kill innocent people every year,you don't hear much about that either,I see it on the local news when they goof up in Nashville and somebody dies.
In our county a deputy was killed by a man who had forced his ex-wife off the road and the officer had just seen it and thought it was just a fender bender,the guy shot the officer before he could even get out of his car,then he shot himself.
I felt bad for the deputy,it happened less than two blocks from the police dept.,the wife worked there as a dispatcher...it makes the police kind of jumpy,and I can understand why,but it can make someone make a wrong move also with deadly results.
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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:02 am
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This is awful. I live in Acton, west london, and its getting closer. Has been in Ealing, now shepherds bush is rumoured to be burning. A sony warehouse was burnt down a while back which has meant the music business is now getting effected as well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/14460204
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/14460204

complete mindless anarchy. No political reasoning at all, is now just the feral chav kids (they are all between 12 and 18 from what ive seen) going wild and trying to grab what they can in the looting. Im unsure where the burning down of shops with unevacuated blocks of flats above them fits into their warped mindsets, just evil stupidity.

im just being sent home from the hospital where i work in hammersmith now as apparantly its heading our way. Its awful, truly horrible. Struggling to describe it. Suffice to say a daydreaming musician like myself is finding it all a bit much. Im physically shaking and have hardly slept as the news channels just keep telling us more and more thats happening. Theres no kids on the streets round here at all, and i think i know where they are, getting their piece of the action. We have a major problem here, its hardly the mods and rockers of the 60`s and the `kids will be kids` thing, this is just fearless, mindless, ambitionless, directionless criminality. I want to move away. Its been uneducated directionless yobs breeding more little directionless yobs for too long and i dont know how any of this can be fixed now. I despair. Id write a song about it, but i wouldnt want to glamourise this in any way shape or form.
Had better go, im taking the back routes home tonight :(

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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:11 am
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tdanb2003 wrote:
I certainly am concerned for our London brethren but I find it difficult to believe that the shooting death of a known gang leader who was apparently armed himself would be the sole cause of the unrest London is experiencing. I would be interested in what the Londoners think the underlying causes might be. The media in the US is certainly not asking. They tend to paint the picture of an innocent father of four gunned down by an aggressive Police Force. :? I pray you guys remain safe from harm.

my apologies for the lame-stream media. Bumper sticker for now until the 2012 election: "Nobama in 2012".

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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:19 am
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Solid Body Love Songs wrote:
tdanb2003 wrote:
I certainly am concerned for our London brethren but I find it difficult to believe that the shooting death of a known gang leader who was apparently armed himself would be the sole cause of the unrest London is experiencing. I would be interested in what the Londoners think the underlying causes might be. The media in the US is certainly not asking. They tend to paint the picture of an innocent father of four gunned down by an aggressive Police Force. :? I pray you guys remain safe from harm.

my apologies for the lame stream media, they are bought paid for and deliberately hurting the USA and it's citizens by not telling true stories and only saying what they are told to by the current socialistic administration. the Chicago beaches have been closing all summer not because of contamination but because of attacks on people by gangs of youths with no discernable education, no morals, no respect or concern for fellow citizens and our traitorous anti-American Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel doesn't want it discussed openly in the media there by endangering the lives of anyone and everyone, with the notable exception of those same youths, in Chicago. I was hoping the government of one of the injured tourists would bring a law suit against this Mayor and his staff because that might be the only way to get him out of office before more people get killed here in Chicago. Bumper sticker for now until the election: "Nobama in 2012".

Amen!! I know where I live that kind of stuff would end quickly and badly. We are well armed for that type of conduct. Better get ready people!! It's a damn shame what has happened to our youth and country!!


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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:27 am
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Hope all you people are staying safe over there. Dunno what's going wrong with the world. Vancouver is sometimes referred to as, "Lotus Land" because of its' beautiful, serene nature. This is a clip from June of OUR shameful riot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q5V6DKH3bw

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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:42 am
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Riots start when people see no future. It happened in the Arab world, it happened in France, it happens in the UK now. Unemployment rates of around 30%, a very strict and limited schooling system, some Arab countries have all the religious trouble, the youth are completely blocked from any prospect of success, marriage, leading a good life.

I'm not saying it's OK - I'm saying I understand where it comes from. But it has to be stopped immediately.

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You can't believe anything that the US Press says. They are just like Pravda of times past!! :? They are nothing but the mouthpiece of the current administration!!


The press is just one side of the coin. The other side is uneducated people who don't understand anything about history, culture, society, economics and political systems. If people can't understand what they read, any press won't help. Then they start to watch FOX news on TV.

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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:48 am
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Solid Body Love Songs wrote:
Bumper sticker for now until the election: "Nobama in 2012".


C'mon......he saved US taxpayers billions by shutting down unnecessary programs.

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Post subject: Re: London Riots.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:53 am
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Riots start when people see no future. It happened in the Arab world, it happened in France, it happens in the UK now. Unemployment rates of around 30%, a very strict and limited schooling system, some Arab countries have all the religious trouble, the youth are completely blocked from any prospect of success, marriage, leading a good life.

I'm not saying it's OK - I'm saying I understand where it comes from. But it has to be stopped immediately.

fhopkins wrote:
You can't believe anything that the US Press says. They are just like Pravda of times past!! :? They are nothing but the mouthpiece of the current administration!!


The press is just one side of the coin. The other side is uneducated people who don't understand anything about history, culture, society, economics and political systems. If people can't understand what they read, any press won't help. Then they start to watch FOX news on TV.

Be save

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Exactly!! If you don't know your history you are doomed to repeat it. Take a look around, does anything seem familiar?


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