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Post subject: 'Buffer' Pedals - Can anyone shed some light on these?
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:06 pm
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Alright, so from what I understand it can be beneficial to have a buffer in a large effects chain, particularly with longer cables. Would this be correct?

Here is the pedal chain which I'm hoping to complete by the end of summer:

Zvex Fuzz Factory > Keeley Compressor > Diamond Fireburst > 70's MXR 6 Band EQ (or perhaps this would be better suited for the effects loop?) > MXR Carbon Copy > Zvex Lo-Fi Loop Junky

Can anyone explain how buffer pedals may be desirable or not-so-desirable to add to the said effects chain? The MXR EQ and Zvex Looper aren't true bypass. I am also wondering if it may be beneficial to add a Boss TU-3 after the fuzz as it also isn't true bypass.


Perhaps I'm overthinking everything, but I value your opinions! Thanks all


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Post subject: Re: 'Buffer' Pedals - Can anyone shed some light on these?
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:11 pm
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Well I can't answer the question, however I can tell you that true bypass is just a BS marketing scheme, so you shouldn't really have to worry about that..... there's a few videos on youtube explaining it, and I'd link you if my internet connection wasn't so terrible at the moment....

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Post subject: Re: 'Buffer' Pedals - Can anyone shed some light on these?
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:18 pm
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Read what Pete Cornish says on his website.
Although some pedals don't like to go after a buffered one.


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Post subject: Re: 'Buffer' Pedals - Can anyone shed some light on these?
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:06 am
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Luke Piewalker wrote:
Read what Pete Cornish says on his website.
Although some pedals don't like to go after a buffered one.


+1 A good buffer will bring your signal back up when you're have long cable runs.

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:14 pm
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Hi guys, and thanks for the informative read. As it turns out the looper is infact true bypass, so my only non-true-bypass is the MXR EQ. I'm not currently in a band, so would say, two 10' cables and removing the EQ from the chain be a viable way to prevent any potential tone loss?

I do love that EQ..

63supro wrote:
+1 A good buffer will bring your signal back up when you're have long cable runs.


Hi 63Supro, What might you consider to be good examples of quality buffers? Thanks


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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:40 pm
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check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOBn75-WN30&feature=player_profilepage

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:29 pm
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Toronado wrote:
Hi guys, and thanks for the informative read. As it turns out the looper is infact true bypass, so my only non-true-bypass is the MXR EQ. I'm not currently in a band, so would say, two 10' cables and removing the EQ from the chain be a viable way to prevent any potential tone loss?

I do love that EQ..

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+1 A good buffer will bring your signal back up when you're have long cable runs.


Hi 63Supro, What might you consider to be good examples of quality buffers? Thanks


If you're happy with your tone, I wouldn't bother. If you feel you really need one the Fryette Valvulator is pretty cool. A friend of mine swears by it. The secret is don't run a million effects with tons of cable. Use high quality low capacitance cables. I get the tone I want so I'm really not bothered by any serious tone sucking. You can build one yourself too. You'll know if you have a problem when you start losing a lot of top end and clarity. Try one pedal at a time and compare the tone with and without the effect.
Here's a couple of links for you. Like I said, if you're happy with your tone, the won't fall because someone tells you you need a buffer circuit.


http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/pro ... er-project

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... wer-supply

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Post subject: Re: 'Buffer' Pedals - Can anyone shed some light on these?
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:48 pm
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63supro wrote:
If you're happy with your tone, I wouldn't bother.


I suppose I'd best wait for everything to arrive before I can be the judge of that. :lol:

Thanks for the explanation re. the cables. If I do end up deciding a buffer is necessary I may look in to the Pure Tone Visual Sound unit, which is relatively inexpensive.


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Post subject: Re: 'Buffer' Pedals - Can anyone shed some light on these?
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:51 pm
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If you're real handy you can build one yourself. But the Visual Sound stuff is great. I use their OneSpot and it works great. It even runs my old vintage stuff. The cords are really the important thing.

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