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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:21 am
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captainc wrote:
"Obama HAD to double the Deficit to create Jobs" blah blah blah. Then tells me he (Obama) couldn't create the jobs because the republican's wouldn't allow them to raise taxes.


'So what?' is how I'd respond. Obama is the president. His election campaign wasn't based on 'I won't be able to do anything as President because my hands are tied'. He is suppose to be the LEADER. Clinton and Reagan, love them or hate them, got stuff done.

The USA is by far the strongest economic power in the world. It's like a football team with an all star line up that's on a losing streak. It's up to the coach to manage all the egos pull all that talent together and 'WIN'.

This is what the USA gets electing a guy who doesn't play a Fender.


You may be on to something. We had a surplus from the guy with the saxophone. :lol:

Wars are a huge expense and a huge part of the problem. We got nothing out of them either. Not even a discount on oil. How can this country fund anything when our jobs and a big chunk of our tax base is now working overseas? The big corporations still get the tax breaks but create no new jobs at home. I'd take their tax breaks away unless they were manufacturing here. Fair paying factory jobs are important to the middle class. You might not get rich, but at least you can pay your bills. I'd rather work one manufacturing job than three paper hat jobs or work at Walmart or Target.
Some of the problems were created by this administration but many were handed down from the past administration including a pretty big hunk of the deficit. We got nothing in return from any of these wars and if you think the world is any more secure because of them, think again. I also find it funny that no one on Wall Street was jailed for the economic damage they did. Ever wonder who their friends are? Think their retirement accounts were affected?

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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:42 am
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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:47 am
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Absolutely Nothing. There's a song about it. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:02 am
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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:06 am
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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:11 am
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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:14 am
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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:21 am
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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:14 am
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Post subject: Re: 14.3 Trillion Debt Ceiling Default Blues
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:50 pm
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Voodoo Blues wrote:
I'm not familiar with the debt ceiling situation so can you guys help me out... I thought both the Liberals and Republicans in Congress came to an agreement on the plan and the President just approved it. Now that's it backfired how is it the Presidents fault? Should he have vetoed it like he said he would?


For most of the 20th century and all of the 21st century (thus far) the United States of America has incurred a budget deficit. That is, for each of these years, the nation spent more money than it had on hand.

These annual deficits are amassed year upon year upon year and collectively become the national debt.

To finance these obligations, the United States Treasury sells bond issues -- usually abroad, but not always.

Now, the bearers of these Treasury issues are starting to clamor for their money as the bonds reach their maturity. Clouds of doubt regarding payback to these investors are now forming because of the recent credit-worthiness downgrade by Standard & Poors, long one of the objective gauges for fiscal soundness.

The deal recently struck between Congress and the administration was supposed to allay those concerns. But because so little federal spending cuts were actually legislated, it's exacerbated an already untenable situation. Mr. Obama -- or indeed, any president -- bears the responsibility for blame solely because he is the CEO, just as with any large complex corporation.

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