How's this psychedelic stoner tone?

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

Trying to tweak my pedalboard to get that psychedelic tone. How am I doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEy4YgluwT8

Negative Creep · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:16 pm **Posts:** 881

Very Hendrix live Voodoo Childish, excellent, maybe a little more treble, but thats a preference

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

Negative Creep wrote:

Very Hendrix live Voodoo Childish, excellent, maybe a little more treble, but thats a preference

Thanks. yes, it does need a little more high end. You think the vibe pedals are sucking the high end?

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

tobacco rd wrote:

Sounds good. I'd leave the lower end in. Hendrix used more low settings on the Marshalls.

I guess to compensate for the high end tone of the strat?

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

tobacco rd wrote:

At the very start, Jimi had Jim Marshall change out some trans. etc. He didn't like the high end sounds everyone else used. The low end pushed was the base of his power. Listen to the controlled feedback.

Ahh....so Jimi was also a tone chaser as well.

Negative Creep · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:16 pm **Posts:** 881

bluesguitar65 wrote:

Negative Creep wrote:

Very Hendrix live Voodoo Childish, excellent, maybe a little more treble, but thats a preference

Thanks. yes, it does need a little more high end. You think the vibe pedals are sucking the high end?

Possibly, what pickup do you have selected, id run with the bridge pup. Im not a super effects guru so I have no idea exactly whats going on in terms of the high end, idk how high is treble on your amp, id personally have it around 6,
*Edit, just saw it was on ten, hmmmmmmm maybe mess around with the aqua $@!&, my chorus ensemble sometimes on the right setting causes a bassier aftertaste

djwhitjr · **Joined:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:53 pm **Posts:** 349

I like it that way it is. Leave the settings for a few days then mess with them if you don't like. In the meantime you can clean your garage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

djwhitjr wrote:

I like it that way it is. Leave the settings for a few days then mess with them if you don't like. In the meantime you can clean your garage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

LOL!!

Negative Creep · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:16 pm **Posts:** 881

tobacco rd wrote:

bluesguitar65 wrote:

djwhitjr wrote:

I like it that way it is. Leave the settings for a few days then mess with them if you don't like. In the meantime you can clean your garage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

LOL!!

That really is the way to do it. Sometimes you can mess yourself all up by doing to many settings. Write down you settings, both amp and guitar. Take digital pics of settings. Anything that will keep it from getting to jumbled up.

+1

radio_friendly_unit_shifter · **Posted:** Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:34 am

thats actually just about spot on.

stratmansteve · **Posted:** Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:06 am

I agree. You just about nailed it.

63supro · **Joined:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:19 pm **Posts:** 8827

Here's how I do it. YMMV. No digital effects whatsoever. I have a 70's Fender Fuzz Wah the old huge cast aluminum job with the blend controls no IC's it's all transistor. and old 70's Ibanez Phase Shifter. The Phase Shifter gets just enough modulation, and old cheap cords are fine they knock down any brittleness. I can't pinpoint it but something's off. The distortion doesn't sound smooth enough to me. Maybe try working with the tone controls a bit. Your pretty close. Digital effects kill the whole psychedelic vibe. We never had anything real fancy way back. Listen to some old Iron Butterfly or Jefferson Airplane stuff and you'll see what I mean.

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

63supro wrote:

Here's how I do it. YMMV. No digital effects whatsoever. I have a 70's Fender Fuzz Wah the old huge cast aluminum job with the blend controls no IC's it's all transistor. and old 70's Ibanez Phase Shifter. The Phase Shifter gets just enough modulation, and old cheap cords are fine they knock down any brittleness. I can't pinpoint it but something's off. The distortion doesn't sound smooth enough to me. Maybe try working with the tone controls a bit. Your pretty close. Digital effects kill the whole psychedelic vibe. We never had anything real fancy way back. Listen to some old Iron Butterfly or Jefferson Airplane stuff and you'll see what I mean.

Thanks 63supro. I guess at this day and age, it would be pretty difficult to find guitar effects without any hint of IC's. Perhaps, I can hunt down some actual pedals from the 60s, but I'm sure that would cost a fortune. An actual Dallas Aribtar Fuzz Face has a premium of about $400, and an old tape echo echoplex is in the $1000 range. I used a current Dunlop Fuzz Face for the distortion. I rolled the guitar volume about 7 just before it would fuzz out.

63supro · **Joined:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:19 pm **Posts:** 8827

bluesguitar65 wrote:

63supro wrote:

Here's how I do it. YMMV. No digital effects whatsoever. I have a 70's Fender Fuzz Wah the old huge cast aluminum job with the blend controls no IC's it's all transistor. and old 70's Ibanez Phase Shifter. The Phase Shifter gets just enough modulation, and old cheap cords are fine they knock down any brittleness. I can't pinpoint it but something's off. The distortion doesn't sound smooth enough to me. Maybe try working with the tone controls a bit. Your pretty close. Digital effects kill the whole psychedelic vibe. We never had anything real fancy way back. Listen to some old Iron Butterfly or Jefferson Airplane stuff and you'll see what I mean.

Thanks 63supro. I guess at this day and age, it would be pretty difficult to find guitar effects without any hint of IC's. Perhaps, I can hunt down some actual pedals from the 60s, but I'm sure that would cost a fortune. An actual Dallas Aribtar Fuzz Face has a premium of about $400, and an old tape echo echoplex is in the $1000 range. I used a current Dunlop Fuzz Face for the distortion. I rolled the guitar volume about 7 just before it would fuzz out.

Check out Build Your Own Clone. http://www.buildyourownclone.com/ Or General Guitar Gadgets. Lots of analog stuff, even an Octavia clone.

rver1986 · **Joined:** Mon May 23, 2011 10:45 am **Posts:** 39

That's one hell of a sound! Really loved it! Great playing too!

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