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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:55 am
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So we're back to the old "we do drugs, we're cool - marijuana is safer than alcohol" nonsense again, huh? I've never smoked weed (or anything else), but I'd hate to think I had to start just so my kids' friends would think I'm cool. B.S... bad influence... right back to the old guitar player stereotypes... yet again.

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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:21 am
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I hardly smoke cannabis to look,feel,or appear cool to myself or others.I spend many sleepless nights,dog tired but unable to sleep because of the intense chronic pain I suffer from.Marijuana just taken in small amounts is just enough to make me drowsy and get my much needed sleep.
As I stated several times before moderation is the key as any overuse is misuse.I also stated that from my own experience it impairs you much less than alcohol,has a calming and peaceful effect,and you don't feel like a piece of turd the next day.
I smoked up long before I ever took a drink and would still prefer it to drinking as it doesn't cloud your judgement and although you may seem"out of it" compared to being drunk you're much more lucid.
I have always marched to my own drummer and far be it from me to do something just to impress people.I'm not always smoking up and very rarely drink alcohol I maintain restraint and control no matter what I do and never let myself cross over the line to total impairment.As for it being nonsense that marijuana is less harmful than booze such is not the case and the internet is full of studies from many reputable research facilities that it is in fact that way.When you let anything run your life be it alcohol,drugs or even food you are a slave to it and abusing it-moderation is the key.

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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:38 am
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Our youngest daughter arrived a couple of days ago to spend 10 days with us to get a break from her busy job.When she last visited she brought her boyfriend with her and when they got back to Labrador he raved about how "with it" we were to all their friends and how they could sit down and have a few drinks and talk about anything at all with us and our laid back attitude.What capped it off is when my daughter told him to break out his stash so we could have a real laugh.He never expected that "old folks"would be so open minded about herbal smokeables.The Missus only tried it once years ago but tried it again that night and laughed her buttocks off.

It's great to be accepted by the younger crowd for thinking young.My daughter's boyfriend was so impressed that he sent me an original Woodstock ticket from the day Jimi played and she told me that he paid a bundle for it.

And yet, the core of your original post is that you are cool because you broke down and did the doobie with your daughter and her boyfriend. You even got your wife, who had only done dope once before in her life, to kick in and get happy. You can't have it both ways, even if you smoke weed for your "chronic pain." Your mission in life at this age should be to serve as a role model, not as a go-with-the-flow head case, smoking dope just to prove you're with it, which, as I stated above, seems to be the entire reason you started this thread.

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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:01 am
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I'd like to add that I am also very pro-marijuana. It's nice to be able to put in a good honest 8 hours at work, or a hard day of studying knowing that there'll be a bit of a reward when I get back home. And it's not even about getting high. "High" is a terrible way of describing the effects of marijuana. I think 'relaxing' is the more proper term. When the word "High" comes up I think of someone injecting particularly harmful, addicting substances to the point of passing out. The kind of drugs that cause people to commit crime or any means necessary to get a hold of more. No weed smoker is going to go on a killing spree or any crime for that matter.

Also, weed really isn't that bad for you. A cigarette contains numerous harmful toxins, tar, cyanide, etc. Weed is one single substance, and the only harm that comes from smoking it is the very act of smoking (obviously not the best for your lungs).

The real benefit on marijuana is the sheer amount of stress reduction that goes into your life. I am a Biological Sciences graduate, and I can say for an absolute fact that most immune problems are intimately related to stress. I haven't been sick once this year, which I believe speaks volumes.

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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:20 am
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You got me pegged way off course.Drugs weren't all I mentioned I also stated how we had a good open rapport with our kids and their friends are envious of them.It was my daughter and her friends that said we were cool for being so youthful and open minded in our views not me.I am not now nor have I ever been a poseur who would proclaim I took drugs to look cool to younger people and any others just to impress them.

I am hardly what you'd call a regular drug user or drinker for that matter as I just use it occasionally and have a lot of friends who smoke a lot more than I do so I'd hardly try to impress them.I hardly forced my wife to do so too and I hardly "broke down"as we were having a great laugh and I felt like having a bigger laugh and I'm hardly a "go with the flow head case" and as far as being a good role model both my daughters are making very very good money as we taught them a good work ethic as a matter of fact I posted a thread a couple of weeks ago that my daughter's boss is moving into another job and he recommended that she be fast tracked for the job even though she's the newest one there.Her mother and I have both taught her and her sister to stand up to the devil if she has to when she knows she's in the right and we also instilled a strong work ethic in her. So my having an occasional spliff hardly shows me to be a bad parent.People get their knickers in a knot just over the fact that marijuana is illegal but in Canada it is allowed to be used for medicinal purposes.I choose to use it the odd time over alcohol because I know that it is doing far less damage and see no harm in using it recreationally. People have a knee-jerk reaction against marijuana without delving into the facts and that's sad.The facts are out there and it's just a matter of having an open mind and looking into the matter objectively and you'll see that much of the hoopula about cannabis is totally unfounded and based on years of misinformation.

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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:33 am
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Just wierd to see how people like CRGuitar go off the deep end in condemning you for having a joint with an adult child. Again, I'm niether for nor against it, but it should be up to the individual, just like alcohol. If you want to drink an entire case of beer or light up a phatty at your home-more power to you. I thought this was a free country. But don't do either of those things and drive a car...!

If you aren't hurting someone else than it's your choice.

Again, I'm not saying alcohol and weed are the same but both can be used or abused depending on the person.


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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:53 am
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WI KISSfan wrote:
Just wierd to see how people like CRGuitar go off the deep end in condemning you for having a joint with an adult child. Again, I'm niether for nor against it, but it should be up to the individual, just like alcohol. If you want to drink an entire case of beer or light up a phatty at your home-more power to you. I thought this was a free country. But don't do either of those things and drive a car...!

If you aren't hurting someone else than it's your choice.

Again, I'm not saying alcohol and weed are the same but both can be used or abused depending on the person.


+1 I don't find it a big deal at all. It's not like you fired up to impress your 16 year old child and his friends. I'm 55 and have no problem with it, my father in law is 84 years old and he'd like to see it all legalized. It's funny how some folks think if drugs are legalized, that we will become a world of drug addicts. I drink, but I'm not an alcoholic. I smoke on rare occasions and I'm not a drug addict. I wouldn't call it cool, just human. :wink: Good on ya guitslinger

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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:55 am
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Not to be argumentative, but I find it humourous that you have mentioned studies and research that display the positive aspects of weed over booze, yet you have said more than once, "I can't remember where I read this/who wrote the study."

Memory loss is one of the symptoms of the use of marijuana, is that not correct?

Also, I mentioned earlier that I was not anti-marijuana. I agree that its' medicinal purposes are abundant if the drug is used right.

The same can be said of alcohol. Red wine has cardiological benefits, hard liquor (such as whiskey) can be used to combat sore throat & colds, etc.

But the usual/general use of these substances is not medicinal, it's recreational (alcohol included).

Tobacco can be used as a natural pesticide/insect repellant, too...but its' misuse (smoking, chewing, etc.) leads to problems such as cancer, emphysema, heart disease, premature aging, etc.

...and I know that pot is an "all natural substance, unlike cigarettes..." There's another substance that is all natural, organic and completely pure. It has no synthetic properties and has never been duplicated by scientists or chemists...it's called rattlesnake venom. Do you want a jiggerful?

You've mentioned the medicinal uses, the ability to make rope and cloth and the use by our Founding Fathers.

..but then you admit two of the partakers had no medical need, I wasn't aware of a great shortage of rope or cloth, and Thomas Jefferson's been dead for almost 200 years.

I like and respect you--your posts are insightful and informative, you have a great passion about guitars (and many other subjects, for that matter)...but the premise of "My kids think we're cool because we toke with them and their friends" is a harmful thought and a poor example for those who cannot "get a grip" on the use of intoxicants, whether it be in smoke, liquid, powder or pill form.

If someone advocates the use of pot, just be honest. They like it because it makes them feel good.

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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:10 am
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:) It seems as though Marijuana is trying Evan harder these days to find a legal place in our society. That does not displace the fact that it is still an illegal "controlled substance". And as such can not be tolerated as a recreational drug of choice. I have no feelings either for or against the use of "MARIJUANA", except that it is illegal and that My choice is to obey the law. :)
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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:21 am
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Hi S.A. the having a toke was only part of it,I also mentioned that they feel free to talk to us about anything and our house was the gathering place for all the neighbourhood kids.I didn't tell the girls my stand on marijuana until they were well into their teens and able to draw their own conclusions.My youngest daughter is 26 and the eldest is 31 and people compliment us on the fine job we did of raising two go-getters with high moral values and a drive to better themselves with regard to their jobs whenever they can.
I can't recall the exact places that did these studies because it was so long ago and not from drug induced amnesia.Anyway I printed the names of some of the facilities that I thought were involved.As with any other drug I keep use to a minimum and use it infrequently.I haven't had an alcoholic drink since last summer when I had 2 or 3 Margaritas on the deck and the last spliff I had was back in October so that hardly qualifies me as a dope fiend.My eldest daughter never touches smoke and the younger does very,very rarely.Her company does random hair follicle tests for drug use but that's not the reason she's just a very occasional user-she just finds that she can take it or leave it but generally leaves it.

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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:23 am
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WI KISSfan wrote:
Just wierd to see how people like CRGuitar go off the deep end in condemning you for having a joint with an adult child. Again, I'm niether for nor against it, but it should be up to the individual, just like alcohol. If you want to drink an entire case of beer or light up a phatty at your home-more power to you. I thought this was a free country. But don't do either of those things and drive a car...!

If you aren't hurting someone else than it's your choice.

Again, I'm not saying alcohol and weed are the same but both can be used or abused depending on the person.

I would say I am far from going off the deep end. I'm not condemning the OP for having a joint with an adult child - it's his ATTITUDE with regard to this that I find annoying. I'M SO COOL! WE'RE COOL PARENTS! Like he can't be a cool parent without lighting up to impress the young 'uns! When it comes to crap like this I'm a good old Zero Tolerance geezer in my house. I couldn't care less what you do in yours. But coming on this Forum and touting yourself as a wonderful, cool parent for doing drugs with your kids is asinine. Sorry.

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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
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I see nothing wrong with weed other than it being against the law. I haven,t smoked weed in 30 yrs but if it was legal I,d fire up a bowl today. If your kids are adults good for you.


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Post subject: Re: We're Cool Parents!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:36 am
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I'm not so sure about "marijuana releaves pain better than morphine and oxy-contin and other powerful opiates".

At least not scar tissue and adhesions from surgery.



from my experience, as an ex weed smoker, i cant imagine trying to rely on it
to do what my RX oxy has done for me over the last 3 months. there's no way.
granted im taking it less than 3X bi-week because i detest the stuff, it has been a positive pain reliever the few times ive had to take it. there is no way weed would have done the job.

Totally agree with you on this one bro.....I have been there and done that.On a good note...my kids and all their friends think that we are pretty cool parents too.A couple of my sons friends come over and play my guitars all the time cause I have better gear than them and they think I am the coolest for letting them come over and jam and Bbque and just hang out in general.I love my kids and wish my parents would have let me and my friends do what I let my kids do.They are good kids and don't do drugs or drink.As long as they are respectful.They can do what they want at my house within reason.I really dig that their friends all say "Dude...your parents ar so cool.I wish mine would be like yours ...my parents are lame and never let us hang out at the house".I want my kids to be able to hang out and feel like its their home too...cause it is.I enjoy jammin with em and teachin them also.I blow the harp and they learn how to play rhythm and keep the beat.

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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:43 am
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Hi S.A. the having a toke was only part of it,I also mentioned that they feel free to talk to us about anything and our house was the gathering place for all the neighbourhood kids.I didn't tell the girls my stand on marijuana until they were well into their teens and able to draw their own conclusions.My youngest daughter is 26 and the eldest is 31 and people compliment us on the fine job we did of raising two go-getters with high moral values and a drive to better themselves with regard to their jobs whenever they can.

I don't think that the use of marijuana (with or without your kids' involvement) and being a good "cool" parent are mutually exclusive.

My wife and I have the open door policy towards my daughters' friends, and to a child, all of them think we're cool, because "Mr. Armadillo is fun and hangs out with us and laughs at cartoons and plays guitar & harmonica and doesn't talk down to us..." and "Mrs. Armadillo is fun and funny and I can talk to her about anything, even boys and sex and puberty and she'll be honest..." "They both respect me as an individual."

We have more honorary "nephews and nieces" than we can shake a stick at.

But what another parent told us was interesting about what kids want and need; one parent said her daughter liked us because we commanded and deserved respect. We would be playful and fun (and up on the latest trends for the most part), but we didn't allow them to be disrespectful to us or each other. They aren't allowed to curse in our house and we have rules that we stick to. We're a good balance of strict and loving, and the kids appreciate it.

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I can't recall the exact places that did these studies because it was so long ago and not from drug induced amnesia.

That was just a humourous aside, I knew you weren't in a constant fog. Your posts are too clear to be in that state.

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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:52 am
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As I have stated repeatedly I never set out to impress anyone nor did I tout any coolness I may have.I was just pleased that My Daughter and Her Friends thought that we were cool for various reasons and it's their words not mine.I didn't know that they thought of us in such glowing terms and I'm glad that they don't regard us as being old fogeys so I wasn't blowing my own horn but merely repeating something nice and complimentary that they said about us.In this day and age when so many parents and their children become alienated it's great to know that you did something right and your kids appreciate you for it.CR has his mindset on this as being totally self-serving pro-drug rant.The drug reference was just a small part of it.When the girls were in theer teens they'd bring up their guitar playing friends for me to give them some pointers on playing lead and some Hendrix riffs and they thought that was cool too.If being pleased that your kids and their friends have such a high regard for you is assinine then so be it.

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