Our youngest daughter arrived a couple of days ago to spend 10 days with us to get a break from her busy job.When she last visited she brought her boyfriend with her and when they got back to Labrador he raved about how "with it" we were to all their friends and how they could sit down and have a few drinks and talk about anything at all with us and our laid back attitude.What capped it off is when my daughter told him to break out his stash so we could have a real laugh.He never expected that "old folks"would be so open minded about herbal smokeables.The Missus only tried it once years ago but tried it again that night and laughed her buttocks off.
Anyway she's the envy of her friends now and they all wish they had parents as open minded as we are.Before anyone comes down on me for being pro marijuana.I am the Vice President of a province wide chronic pain group and a lot of our members rely on medicinal marijuana for pain relief and as a sleep aid.Many have found that marijuana releaves pain better than morphine and oxy-contin and other powerful opiates.I have done exhaustive research on the effects of marijuana and almost 100% of research facilities have found that when used in moderation it is less harmful and impairing than alcohol and is most certainly not physically addictive,although chronic users may develop a psychological dependence.
It's great to be accepted by the younger crowd for thinking young.My daughter's boyfriend was so impressed that he sent me an original Woodstock ticket from the day Jimi played and she told me that he paid a bundle for it.

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Sorry, from a teenagers standpoint, you've felt the same way before too so don't act like this is news Parents are lameeeeeeeeeeeeeee, we love them, they do cool things, but they're not cool, sorry dude. I mean Rock N Roll has flourished off the fact Mom and Dad say "No" and we do it anyways making it cooler knowing they don't approve. But hey remember, we'll always love our parents.

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Well according to my daughter's friends we're cool and they've been saying that for years even when they were way younger when all the kids in the neighbourhood gathered at our house.We'd go out with the kids like big kids ourselves and play hide and seek and Spotlight.So even back then we had a great rapport with kids.I've worked with kids ever since I was going to school where I had a summer and weekend job as a councillor/recreation director at an orphanage so having good communication skills with kids comes as second nature by now.

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Is your wife or your daughter's boyfriend a chronic pain sufferer?

If not, your (well-founded) stance on the use of medical marijuana starts to lose momentum. If it is medicinal, then any who do not have the symptoms it relieves are abusing the drug...just as a person who doesn't have ADD should not take Ritalin, or a person who doesn't have cold and flu symptoms shouldn't take Nyquil, a person without chronic pain or nausea (due to other medical issues) shouldn't smoke marijuana.

Otherwise, they weren't properly using the drug--they were just getting high.

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I gave up "mary-jane" many years ago so I can't use that as a comparison by any means, and I certainly won't judge you for your decisions. But when it comes to "cool" parents, I can see how your open attitudes toward it would be conversation for you daughter's friends.

Growing up, my house was tension and not so much fun. We did all we could to get away from our folks and good memories are pretty few and far between. My sister and I aren't very close either living several states apart and not much contact. I've tried to use that as a model for how I don't want my family to be now. My wife and I have a good relationship with our kids and spend lots of quality time with them. We can talk pretty openly and honestly about all subjects, and have a happy home by all estimates. My kids friends are always around the house, I spent last weekend helping a son's buddy install a new car stereo so I'm still useful too

But hey we're still "old" and uncool no matter how much they like us right?

No neither one suffers from chronic pain and it was only my wife's second time trying it. As I stated above tests by many reputable hospitals and research facilities have proven conclusively that marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol,I believe that Johns-Hopkins,William and Mary and the University of Tennessee were 3 but it has been so long since I read their reports that I forget exactly which ones but the findings are indelible in my mind.Contrary to popular belief Marijuana is non-addictive although it can be perceived as such because some overusers develop a psychological dependence on it.
As with any drug there is the potential for abuse and that I don't agree with at all just as I don't approve the overconsumption of alcohol which as stated before is far more harmful than marijuana and is also addictive and can cause irreversable damage to the brain and internal organs.
The key to the use of any drug is moderation and overuse of any drug or medication is abuse.If used in a responsible manner marijuana can be less impairing than alcohol,people usually don't become agressive or violent due to the sedating nature of it,and you don't get a nauseous hangover the next day.Personally if given a choice between marijuana and alcohol I'd pick the former as I've never had a negative experience with it but I've had bad effects from alcohol many times.There is a great ammount of misunderstanding regarding marijuana and research findings are readily available on the web.

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ok but which one is legal at this point?
there are other ways/reasons for your children and their friends to find you cool though.
in the US, sharing your RX is a class1 felony slinger, be careful.
marijuana being far less harmful that alcohol i dont buy it. both are more often than not a stepping stone to other drugs. been there done that and ive seen it over and over again.

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I'm not so sure about "marijuana releaves pain better than morphine and oxy-contin and other powerful opiates".

At least not scar tissue and adhesions from surgery.

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from my experience, as an ex weed smoker, i cant imagine trying to rely on it
to do what my RX oxy has done for me over the last 3 months. there's no way.
granted im taking it less than 3X bi-week because i detest the stuff, it has been a positive pain reliever the few times ive had to take it. there is no way weed would have done the job.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

I agree that the immoderate use of any substance--drugs, alcohol, food (even healthy foods), etc. is harmful. I also understand that pot, used in moderation, has fewer negative side effects than other intoxicants.

But if your supposition is that medical use of marijuana should be legalized, you have to take that a step further...would you think it was cool (forget what the kids think) if your boyfriend-in-law and wife were taking Darvoset or Hydrocodone (medicines that can help health-related pain issues) without having a medical necessity?

I'm not anti-pot--I'm anti-drug abuse...and using any substace to get drunk/high/altered without medical necessity is abuse of that substance.

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Not all people find it better than oxy contin and morphine as such but use it as a safer alternative and to counter the nausea caused by a lot of narcotics.Some do find it better depending on ther nature of the pain.I read in Weed World a few months ago that researchers have found the pain relieving compound in marijuana and have isolated it from the THC which is the intoxicating agent of the drug.This finding will help people combat pain without any side affects associated with the drug.BTW meds taken for pain relief don't usually cause the euphoria associated with them and they just attack the pain unlike people who take it recreationally for the high.Also less than .6 % of people who take narcotics for pain as needed become physically addicted to them.This is from research done by the Chronic Pain Association of Canada and the Canadian Pain Coalition who also did research on the marijuana vs.alcohol and opiates studies.

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weed world thats to funny. they actually have a mag for medical marry-jane.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

Hi Screamin' Armadillo,I wouldn't like it at all if they or anyone took the drugs you mentioned recreationally as they are very powerful narcotics with strong addictive properties whereas marijuana is at the other end of the scale and is relatively innocuous compared to narcotics and their myriad of side effects.Marijuana was legal in North America up until the 20s & 30s where it was banned during prohibition along with alcohol. When Prohibition was ended alcohol was lifted from the ban but due to some hysterical politicians reefer madness had become ingrained into them and they passed a law that marijuana kept its classification as a banned substance.Some of the early presidents of the US smoked "hemp"regularly,which ones I forget right now but they grew "hemp" on their plantations for making rope and twine and partook in the smoking of it just as casually as having a snifter of brandy.
Hi Way Cool there are several publications dealing with cannabis,Weed World and High Times are just 2 but Weed World is more interested in the medicinal properties and ongoing research into it.Both mags freely advertise cannabis seeds and paraphernalia. The vast majority of seeds come from the Netherlands.

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ooops, i'll back out of this post and just watch from here. sorry for the input.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

One of the great pleasures of life for me is having a smoke and playing guitar. Over the years ive become dependant on it and must admit my life would be better if i didnt smoke the stuff now, but id never forget the amount of pleasure its given me over the years. Its also caused my memory and concentration to suffer greatly i think, but i like to console myself by remembering what i was like at school before i ever smoked, drank or did anything.... yup, i was dopey and couldnt concentrate then either!

I say each to their own. its not big, clever or cool. But for some, its can be wonderful. Everyones different.

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