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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:03 am
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Pop singers who think that they're doing rock like Lady Gag and Justa Beaver are way over rated.The whole genre of pop music is way over rated because it's filled with old wishy washy cliches about I love you baby -you broke my heart type songs that are vacuous and insipid and devoid of any redemable musical content they are churned out just as fast and just as tasteless as fast food burgers and fries.

don't forget about pink, avril levine (though i find her quite enjoyable) and adam lambert


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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:14 am
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ralfcaetano wrote:
guitslinger wrote:
Pop singers who think that they're doing rock like Lady Gag and Justa Beaver are way over rated.The whole genre of pop music is way over rated because it's filled with old wishy washy cliches about I love you baby -you broke my heart type songs that are vacuous and insipid and devoid of any redemable musical content they are churned out just as fast and just as tasteless as fast food burgers and fries.

don't forget about pink, avril levine (though i find her quite enjoyable) and adam lambert

I actually like Pink...she's got somethin' that keeps me listening. Her smoky, husky voice is intriguing.

I like to watch Avril...she's cute, and looks like Nicole Kidman's angry little sister...her music is just silly little punk-pop-fluff for the most part.

I have never listened to Adam Lambert (as far as I know), so I can't say negative or positive about his music.

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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:20 am
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autotune, sound engineers(& engineering), modeling amps,modeling guitars, synthesizers, electric drumkits, and anything else that perpetuates the entire "I can get rich by manipulating recordings that could make an aquarium pump sound like a rockstar" mentality......it's taking the heart, soul, and talent out of modern music.

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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:26 am
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Bender 4 Life wrote:
synthesizers


I'm hoping you're only basing this on really bad 80's pop......?

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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:55 am
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Playing fast is over-rated.

Slow down and put some soul in it.

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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:12 am
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Bender 4 Life wrote:
autotune, sound engineers(& engineering), modeling amps,modeling guitars, synthesizers, electric drumkits, and anything else that perpetuates the entire "I can get rich by manipulating recordings that could make an aquarium pump sound like a rockstar" mentality......it's taking the heart, soul, and talent out of modern music.

Thank you... Someone finally said it! :wink:

Today's "music" requires no talent. Everything is pretty much already done for you. All you do is just show up in the studio and push a couple of buttons. :roll:

Example: My daughters have a college friend who is making a hip-hop CD. He has all those beat boxes, sequencers, synthesizers, etc... and did everything himself. He even "sampled" a few backbeats and bass tracks and put his stuff on top of it. Anyway, my daughters told him about me and how I "rock out" on guitar and play a variety of other instruments too. Long story short - he met up with me and played one of his demo tracks on CD for me. I wasn't impressed.... :roll: I'm not into hip-hop, digital sampling, and all sorts of synthesized techno-bullsh**.... :x His stuff had no soul. It had no heart. It had no feel. I think I offended him, because I told him that he needs some "real" instruments in the mix. :roll:


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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:02 am
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Metal and in general the whole Yngwie Malmsteen/Steve Vai/Joe Satriani kind of superplaying. I don't care how fast you can play or how many scales and notes and whatever bullshit it has in it. The $@!& is souless sounding. $@!& all that wheedlee wheedlee squal horseshit.



+1!

I think its interesting the amount of people ive met over the years who can widdle all over the place, really quite amazing talent... But its like they have no soul, nothing to say, and no emotion in their playing. Whether it is a consequence or a coincidence, they also seem to find it very very difficult to write music themselves.

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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:48 am
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I don't remember who said it already, but sampling, and pitch correcting/autotune is way overused in the pop genre. Additionally, the whiney rock on Pulse(Sirius/XM) grinds my gears as well. I can always change the station at least :D

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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:26 am
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I think its interesting the amount of people ive met over the years who can widdle all over the place, really quite amazing talent... But its like they have no soul, nothing to say, and no emotion in their playing. Whether it is a consequence or a coincidence, they also seem to find it very very difficult to write music themselves.

You just described the difference between a "player" and an "artist"

A "player" imitates what he's heard. That may be an amazing feat in itself, but it is rarely moving. What players write is often very derivative of others' work, too.

But an artist creates, instead of duplicating what they've heard. They bring something new to the table--even if it's familiar (whether reminiscent of another artist's work or just familiar because of their own style).
There are artists who play other people's songs--but they put their own stamp on whatever they're doing, they interpret them into something personal (Jimi was good at that--think about "All Along The Watchtower", Jimmie Vaughan is good at that, too--his swampy sparkly style makes any song he plays his own, and Joe Cocker made a career out of doing that).

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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:16 pm
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"what do you find overated in music?"
what word doesn't belong in the above sentence?

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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:12 pm
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synthesisers or however you spell it.

songs with endless solo's. i'm not talking like, 1 minute. there fine. i'm talking like 10+ minute solo's. the only exception for me is pearl jam and jimi hendrix. they actually have feeling in it unlike joe satriani's solo's and all those other instrumental bands.

specific genre's

most of all, the mainstream in general.

being/sounding heavy. 97% of the dudes my age in my town that play guitar are into bands like metallica, slayer. and when someone gets guitar that can go down to B tuning there like "OH MY GAWDZ, YOUR THA BEST PLAYERZ IN THIZ TOWN!!!" :roll: $@!& that really pisses me off.

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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:41 am
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radio_friendly_unit_shifter wrote:

songs with endless solo's. i'm not talking like, 1 minute. there fine. i'm talking like 10+ minute solo's. the only exception for me is pearl jam and jimi hendrix. they actually have feeling in it unlike joe satriani's solo's and all those other instrumental bands.

being/sounding heavy. 97% of the dudes my age in my town that play guitar are into bands like metallica, slayer. and when someone gets guitar that can go down to B tuning there like "OH MY GAWDZ, YOUR THA BEST PLAYERZ IN THIZ TOWN!!!" :roll: $@!& that really pisses me off.


this reminded me of a one... bass players that do solos the whole fricken time during songs (probably cause their sick of their 6 notes per song but still they could do it for like 1 min)

that b tuning thing is sad ... "you can sure play that b chord really well!!! dude you're my idol!!!" lowest i've ever gone is c# i think below c is just too low i mean what are they gonna come up with next? g drop?


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Post subject: Re: what do you find overated in music?
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:59 am
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Too much to list in an entire post. So much I won't even attempt it. I'll just say the electric guitar and the people who play it are way overrated. Guitar gods? I don't think so. :P

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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:23 am
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