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Post subject: Re: DOLPHINSTREET ?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:41 pm
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Free photography instructional videos on you tube, I would be interested in that link, because I don't know enough about photography, for sure. :D

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Post subject: Re: DOLPHINSTREET ?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:18 pm
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Look at his sig line. Click on it and you'll see what I mean. I have no problem with him if he gets rid of his pay pay address. I can't link to my photography business in my sig line. Everyone here would be calling it spam. But because it's guitar lessons, it different? I think not! And I've been a member a hell of a lot longer than he has. IMO it's a sneaky way to use a free forum to make a buck. You can't pick and choose who can spam and who can't because of content. Spam is spam and it's not allowed here.


If you want to legitimately offer us a LOT of FREE guitar related photography on your website and you linked to it that would be fine with me. Does he have to start another non-profit web site in order to share with us? If you go to his website you can find all the free videos organized, that is nice. He is giving us something for free. Of course he wants business, but he is not asking us for anything. He is just pointing to the location of the free stuff. Given the amount and value of what he is giving the community for free, I appreciate the link and his presence here. There is a big difference between a guy that loves guitar and wants to help people linking to his site for free stuff and a scam artist trying to advertise here. If you can not tell that he is obviously the first, I don't know what to tell you. You act as if we are being taken advantage of. Rules are in place to help the community, not for screwing up a good thing.

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Post subject: Re: DOLPHINSTREET ?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:14 pm
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I don't have a problem with the free lessons. I have a problem with a link to a pay site. Drop the link and I have no problem. You can look up all the free lessons you want on youtube. The guy runs a for profit service along with free lessons. That's the hook. NO ONE ELSE IS ALLOWED TO DO THIS PERIOD! The rules are very clear. If this becomes a free advertising site, I'm in.
And no, he is pointing to the pay stuff too. Click his sig and it's right there.

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Post subject: Re: DOLPHINSTREET ?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:31 pm
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I know that technically you make a valid point. It was my opinion that considering the nature of the posts it was more of a benefit to the forum. However, I also realize that it is not my call.

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:41 pm
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I like his "how-tos'"...Nothing to pressure you to buy anything either here or on his web page. If it got to the point that I thought he was hawking his stuff here then I'd hit the old :!: to report him to Brad, the Forum Moderator.

If making reference to pay pall and the use of the word discount and store aren't hawking his stuff what is it? The only hawking that should be done if any is for Fender products and even that is kept to a minimum. :!:
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If you feel uncomfortable watching his videos then don't watch Danny. Starting controversy with another Forum member is unsportsman like conduct. If you can post an instructional video you have done that represents a better attitude, feel free to show us the way Danny.


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I get it if your another member like 63 Supro that is pissed he cant advertise on here if he has a buisness that would benifit. But why do you feel the need to smash his name up in lights and start a bun fight?? Are you Bored?? Try not to Bore us too huh..... :roll:

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:44 pm
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Are you upset that you don't have any lessons or help videos free on youtube too? I don't either, which is a good thing, because watching me play will only teach you the worst techniques and bad habits to boot lol. I just like Roberts videos and the positive vibe he projects through them. I always learn something with a smile and that is a remarkable quality to possess. If Brad thought there was an issue he would take care of it, so, obviously there isn't one. Bro, if calling it, giving a Fender Forum member a pass, makes you feel better then call it that. I love the free Fender lessons just as much and in this case having Robert around is a feature about this Forum that I appreciate as well. Have a heart, you never know, it may be something you will grow to like having.

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:24 pm
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i agree with SBLS on this. robert has got some great stuff to offer ANY guitar community.
i too am greatful for his hard work he puts into his videos to make them right and easy to learn. thank you robert for all you do for the guitar player near and far. keep up the good work, i look forward to your next video.

ok now, i do see where 63supro has a bit of a twist in his shorts here. its perfectly legit in my opinion. supro stated its the sig (business advertisment) he has a problem with, and thats it. i can see and agree too with this.

robert should remove that part and by watching his video's we will "stumble" upon his website im very sure. i did. robert is a great guy indeed. im sure if this was brought to his attention, with great respect he would remove his sig. im sure he doesnt want to step on anybodies toes.

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Post subject: Re: DOLPHINSTREET ?
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:12 am
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63supro wrote:
You only have to look as far as his tag line. And yeah, I did hit the report button. I can give you free photography lessons and sell my fine art prints on my site, can I put my link here. Free lessons are fine, but when you add a tag line directing you to a pay site, it's spam. I don't care how well he teaches. Go through the regular advertising channels like the rest of us small business owners. He did this same crap last year then went away for a while. Then he goes oop's sorry I didn't know. He's no better than the purse guy who spammed here and was reported. How many of us here teach guitar but can't link here? Why's this guy so special? Last time looked, this wasn't the Dolphin Street forum. He's just trying to round up new customers at the FMIC expense.


So having reported it, has Brad done anything with the post or contacted you for more info? If not and you feel strongly about this you should report again or send Brad email about it.

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Post subject: Re: DOLPHINSTREET ?
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:15 am
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Way Cool, it wasn't too long ago you started a thread about another forum member who only posted videos of him self playing. I know you didn't mean for it to turn into the mess it did but it's the same thing in this case except Robert is obviously making money off of it.

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:44 am
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way cool jr wrote:
i agree with SBLS on this. robert has got some great stuff to offer ANY guitar community.
i too am greatful for his hard work he puts into his videos to make them right and easy to learn. thank you robert for all you do for the guitar player near and far. keep up the good work, i look forward to your next video.

ok now, i do see where 63supro has a bit of a twist in his shorts here. its perfectly legit in my opinion. supro stated its the sig (business advertisment) he has a problem with, and thats it. i can see and agree too with this.

robert should remove that part and by watching his video's we will "stumble" upon his website im very sure. i did. robert is a great guy indeed. im sure if this was brought to his attention, with great respect he would remove his sig. im sure he doesnt want to step on anybodies toes.

Exactly. That is my problem. Not the free lesson,s but the free advertising. Like I said before, drop the tag line and I have no problem. I have no problem with free stuff for members. My point is if he can link to his site why can't anyone else?

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Post subject: Re: DOLPHINSTREET ?
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:52 am
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It's an interesting debate because I expect many of us can see if from both sides.

For sure, when Robert posts he doesn't exactly mind if it leads people to his website and perhaps eventually to the commercial aspects of it. Yet each link goes to material that is free and which many Forum users find helpful and fun. Perfectly possible to take advantage of that without handing over any money.

For that matter, more and more of the YouTube links people post inflict on us 15 or 30 seconds of commercial advertising video first, as well as other ads on the page. We either live with it or don't click on the links.

The "edit profile" section of our User Control Panel on this Forum invites us to list our website which then appears in all our posts. Fender didn't put that there if they didn't mean us to use it. Many of us who have websites will have a commercial aspect to them, and I guess Fender understand that too. I suspect that so long as we're not actively trying to sell a product right here on the Forum then Fender and Brad probably feel it's OK. I've seen many users with website links that lead to sites that sell something and I don't remember anyone ever having to take them down.

Apart from the nakedly commercial spam threads we've seen so much of recently, of course. We're all sick of that.

It so happens, several Forum users are professional photographers. If I'm remembering right I think we've seen 63Supro's photos before (?) and they were good! I for one would love to see more. Would anyone object if 63 put a link to his website on his profile for display on these pages? I certainly wouldn't mind in the slightest - I'd click on it with pleasure! I absolutely would not be making a complaint to Brad that 63 was trying to sell me something.

Post that link, please! :)

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:11 am
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:15 am
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Ceri wrote:
It's an interesting debate because I expect many of us can see if from both sides.

For sure, when Robert posts he doesn't exactly mind if it leads people to his website and perhaps eventually to the commercial aspects of it. Yet each link goes to material that is free and which many Forum users find helpful and fun. Perfectly possible to take advantage of that without handing over any money.

For that matter, more and more of the YouTube links people post inflict on us 15 or 30 seconds of commercial advertising video first, as well as other ads on the page. We either live with it or don't click on the links.

The "edit profile" section of our User Control Panel on this Forum invites us to list our website which then appears in all our posts. Fender didn't put that there if they didn't mean us to use it. Many of us who have websites will have a commercial aspect to them, and I guess Fender understand that too. I suspect that so long as we're not actively trying to sell a product right here on the Forum then Fender and Brad probably feel it's OK. I've seen many users with website links that lead to sites that sell something and I don't remember anyone ever having to take them down.

Apart from the nakedly commercial spam threads we've seen so much of recently, of course. We're all sick of that.

It so happens, several Forum users are professional photographers. If I'm remembering right I think we've seen 63Supro's photos before (?) and they were good! I for one would love to see more. Would anyone object if 63 put a link to his website on his profile for display on these pages? I certainly wouldn't mind in the slightest - I'd click on it with pleasure! I absolutely would not be making a complaint to Brad that 63 was trying to sell me something.

Post that link, please! :)

Cheers - C


+1 on that!

I, for one, have found Roberts video lessons good, entertaining and informative. If some have spare cash to send him - then that's between the two of them. IMHO

My take on this; Don't run him off. He's a valuable forum member.

It's been a while since I have been on his site - but if I remember right - he offers so much "FREE" that he is obvoiusly trying to help people learn to play. Helping people learn to play guitars, SELLS GUITARS.(.... and amps, and accessories, etc. ..... ) And Fender is in the business of selling guitars. (at least the last time I checked :lol: )

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:28 am
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I use them DolphinStreet lessons a fair bit. It's always nice to see how other people do stuff. It's not like the guy is blatantly trying to extort money. He's giving away good instruction for free. You'd pay plenty on a lot of sites, for what he deems a freebie.

I think the guys intentions are honorable and that his motivation is just.

Supro I'd love to see some of your photography.
If you create then please share. Scenery inspires me to write music much more than anything else these days.

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:36 am
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Voodoo Blues wrote:
Way Cool, it wasn't too long ago you started a thread about another forum member who only posted videos of him self playing. I know you didn't mean for it to turn into the mess it did but it's the same thing in this case except Robert is obviously making money off of it.



hum...... i guess you can look at it that way indeed. there are some major differences though between the two. one interact's with the forum member when asked questions
about his videos or whatever you might ask while the other did not.
one produced audio bit of playing while the other produce's instructional videos for people to learn from. major differences indeed, but i do see where there can be some similarity
in the two as well. i guess the biggest difference is one actually interacts with the forum member while the other one does not. which was kinda the point of
"the thread that went to hell". maybe i need to think on this one a bit.
dang it voodoo, i didnt want to think this morning. :lol: :P

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